Van Staal Plug Bag- FYI

[luds]

Originally Posted by bluefishercat

Joe Lyons has some new bags, hav'nt seen them in person but rumours are that they are nice.

Those bags are great for the money but once again the closure is an issue. Needs more velcro IMO.

[Pete_G]

The new Precision Paks are nice. The SWE has had them for a while, but I don't know anyone who has put a season or even half a season on them yet.

They're untested, as far as I know, at this point.

[In The Surf]

Originally Posted by luds48

Those bags are great for the money but once again the closure is an issue. Needs more velcro IMO.

The closure is not an issue. That was addressed before he started carrying them. They have just as much if not more velcro as Aquaskinz and VS. They don't get any more secure than that.

[luds]

Originally Posted by In The Surf

The closure is not an issue. That was addressed before he started carrying them. They have just as much if not more velcro as Aquaskinz and VS. They don't get any more secure than that.

If you're talking about this bag I disagree. There is much mess velcro on these bags from what I've seen. I had one in my hands last weekend.


http://surfcasting-rhodeisland.com/m...tegory_Code=LB

Do you use them?

[NIB]

The bag in the link looks like the single row..
I have seen 3 different sizes of the precison pks bags..Very nice.If I didn't have a Large AS bag a single row VS bag Several canyon bags a Plano bag a VS Coastal bag i would get one..
The big bag comes with 2 plano type boxes,smaller ones that fit in front of the tubes..
Seemed like a real nice bag..Plenty of velcro..Mesh pockest on the side I would probably cut off as mesh can be a pita with hooks..
There's lots of room in there if u take the plano boxes out..
Cost less then the tube replacemnts. for the VS bag..'
As u can tell I have a few bags I change the inserts from one to the next from time to time..
My AS bag is one of the first models.There was no room along side the insert for anything. I like to jam that area with plastics an stuff so I switched it out with a old canyon bag insert..
There is a mailing tube company that makes the tubes the same type tubes that are in the coastal bags..There nice heavy material..Drill a million very small holes in the botton of the tubes..Silicone em together with a wrap of clear plastic mailing tape to hold together while the glue dries..
Small holes don't get hook points in em lots of holes drain the water..
At home fishing sometimes I find it easier to have a nightime bag an a daytime bag..
U can ease this if u make another set of inserts...

[Joe]

The Prec Pak bags now have a 3" wide velcro strip the length of the flap - they did not originally - I did not get them until late in the year but I tell ya - they look really good for the money. They are about the same price as Canyon - but 3X better.
The large bag - for some reason they put two rows of plug tubes and then two Plano boxes - but I'm going to ask the guy about just putting three rows of tubes...

[luds]

Originally Posted by Joe

The Prec Pak bags now have a 3" wide velcro strip the length of the flap - they did not originally - I did not get them until late in the year but I tell ya - they look really good for the money. They are about the same price as Canyon - but 3X better.
The large bag - for some reason they put two rows of plug tubes and then two Plano boxes - but I'm going to ask the guy about just putting three rows of tubes...

I would love to see that bag without the plano boxes. Like Nib said the medium bag could stand to lose the mesh on the side.

[riverrat2]

I had the large BW bag for 3 seasons. For 40 bucks it did its job. The only complaint was the stupid mesh pocket on the side. I got 3 plugs so tangled in that one night I almost donated the whole back to the bottom of the ocean. After that I went home and cut the hole mesh thing off. It was a solid bag for the money but I got a small aquaskinz bag at the end of the season and thats all I use now. There is no need to bring more than 5 plugs out to fish with you. Most of the time the plugs don't get touched anyways.

[In The Surf]

Originally Posted by luds48

If you're talking about this bag I disagree. There is much mess velcro on these bags from what I've seen. I had one in my hands last weekend.


http://surfcasting-rhodeisland.com/m...tegory_Code=LB

Do you use them?

As posted this was addressed for the SRI bags. Don't know where you looked at them but Joe brought this up and told the owner that this needed to be improved for him to carry the bags and for serious surfcasters to consider them.

Yes I have one, got it late last year so I can't give a full review as of it but I will say it offers the best bang for the buck out there. Far better than Canyon or BW for about the same $.

[Pete_G]

The next trick with Velcro is does it last? Just having a lot isn't enough, does it still hold shut with the same grip later in the year?

Good velcro can last decades. Bad velcro struggles to go more then a season.

[NIB]

Velcro..It's amzing stuff. I wonder how I was ever able to fish without it..
Kinda like Cell Phones..
I don't mean fishing with cell phones.
I mean 20 yrs ago I managed fine without em..
Now it never leaves my side..
I used to use one of them army type bags with the buckle strap.
Then i had my girlfriend sew a starp on one of my canyon bags..

[In The Surf]

Originally Posted by luds48

If you're talking about this bag I disagree. There is much mess velcro on these bags from what I've seen. I had one in my hands last weekend.


http://surfcasting-rhodeisland.com/m...tegory_Code=LB

BTW after you open the link if you click on "click here for additional image" you get a good view of the velcro closure.

[luds]

Originally Posted by In The Surf

BTW after you open the link if you click on "click here for additional image" you get a good view of the velcro closure.

I know it is being picky but the velcro should go to the top of the bag. if you put oversize plugs that stick out of the tube you can barely attach the velcro.

[Finaddict]

Yeah, those look like pretty short plugs, Dave, have you fished big plugs in your bag last season?

[luds]

Originally Posted by Finaddict

Yeah, those look like pretty short plugs, Dave, have you fished big plugs in your bag last season?

the plugs in the precision pack pic are large but if you want to put mulitiple plugs in a bag without getting to tangeled you have to hang them like the aqua skinz bag below.

We're over anylizing. The precision pack is good for the price. The Aquaskinz bag is better. Time to step away from the computer.

[In The Surf]

Originally Posted by luds48

I know it is being picky but the velcro should go to the top of the bag. if you put oversize plugs that stick out of the tube you can barely attach the velcro.

I hear ya Mike.

Though it's hard to tell from the photo where the velcro ends is the top of the front pocket (additional pocket) for leaders and stuff. It has a long flap and that area of velcro is double wide to give additinal clearance and the ability to close higher if necessary. It can handle most of what we would carry but once you get to plugs 9" or greater they'll stick out of most any bag. What I do at that point with whatever bag I'm using is put them in the end tube towards my back so the plug protrudes but the flap can close flush. The bags with the inner flaps are nice in those instances.

No Andy I didn't use it with any large plugs in it last year.

Like Tony I have bags by VS, Aquaskinz, Canyon, Plano and the Ocean Shield Precision Pak.

For the money it appears to be a winner.

And yes we are over analyzing this.