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Old 10-22-2012, 07:59 PM   #1
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Who's nose will grow the longest tonight?

Can't wait to hear the whoppers tonight. Too bad they are not like Pinocchio so we could instantly see the lies and how big they are. Did Pinocchio's nose grow only when he was knowingly lying or did it grow just a little when he said things he made up not knowing if they were true or not?

This should be entertaining. Obama desperately needs to wiggle out of the truths on Lybia. I wonder what the strategy will be and just how far the truth will be stretched (or lies compressed) to save his butt from the obvious Lybia embarrassment he has to face.

This whole election could just explode tonight depending on who is willing to say what and just how gullible the American People are!

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Old 10-22-2012, 08:20 PM   #2
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I swear I just saw the President's ears grow! Does that count?
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:41 PM   #3
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Watching now, so far Big O is kicking arse
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:58 PM   #4
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Just wait for the fact checks in about an hour !

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Old 10-22-2012, 09:26 PM   #5
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He said 10s of thousands were marching to support the US in Libya. I counted about 30.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:42 PM   #6
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Romney's nose, Obama's ears
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Obama lied
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/op...mney.html?_r=0
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I think Gary Johnson Tweeted it the best:
"#Obama says he's worried about innocent young people in the Middle East. Perhaps he should start by not killing them with drones. "
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:19 AM   #9
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I think Gary Johnson Tweeted it the best:
"#Obama says he's worried about innocent young people in the Middle East. Perhaps he should start by not killing them with drones. "
You forgot this one:

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#Romney says he supports #Obama's use of #drones. I am the only candidate who will not use drones to murder innocent people.

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Old 10-23-2012, 06:17 AM   #10
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Do all politicians blink their eyes rapidly at debates? or is that a nervous thing. I could not help but notice, then I got bored and they put me to sleep so I missed most of the debate
I got thru the first question and into the second
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Obama reminds me of a washed up actor trying to hang on anyway he can.
His responses were sophomoric
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:25 AM   #12
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Obama reminds me of a washed up actor trying to hang on anyway he can.
His responses were sophomoric
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At least he didn't mention Poland

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Old 10-23-2012, 06:39 AM   #13
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at this point the undecided are the target/goal of the campaigns and I think Romney appealed to that group and sounded far more Presidential than the President...arrogant, condescending and lecturing in demeaning tones and terms (look at me...I'm smarter than you...I'm the "EXPERT"), all Obama's greatest traits, might help pump up the base in many ways but I don't think those strategies sell that well with the undecided and in particular with women and with anyone who is continuining to struggle right now, we'll see....pretty soon
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At least he didn't mention Poland
Funny I was thinking mediocre had become the new normal under this administration so I guess "least"
Is the best we can expect.

Romney took the high road last night. I don't know if it was the best road but it does give "hope" for a "change" in the way things might be under a new administration
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:37 AM   #15
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New catch phrase, horses and bayonets. Mitt was right regarding the Navy and Obama knows it and still trotted out that horsebleep. Effing Politicians.

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Do all politicians blink their eyes rapidly at debates? or is that a nervous thing. I could not help but notice, then I got bored and they put me to sleep so I missed most of the debate
I got thru the first question and into the second

They are blinking Morse code with their eye lids. Usually saying "Suckers" or "I'm Lying" or something. They sometimes have their fingers crossed too.

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Old 10-23-2012, 07:48 AM   #16
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Mitt was right regarding the Navy and Obama knows it and still trotted out that horsebleep. Effing Politicians.
No, Mitt is not even remotely close to right on the Navy.

Also maybe we all missed out on the whole thing through the 80's and 90's about streamlining the military in general, less vehicles, less ships, less money being blown on old infrastructure that was obsolete and worthless when we have lots of really really cool crap for multirole purposes?

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Old 10-23-2012, 07:34 AM   #17
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Reading the reviews here, it appears Romny won the first 2 of the debates and I'm sure he won the 3rd. Must have been hot there as Romney was sweating bullets.
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:00 AM   #18
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Reading the reviews here, it appears Romny won the first 2 of the debates and I'm sure he won the 3rd. Must have been hot there as Romney was sweating bullets.
Romney kept his composure much better than Obama. Obama kept swallowing hard and looking nervous. Also, Obama got into his snippy mode trying to talk down to Romney because he can't handle someone pointing out when he's wrong.

I think it was very close, mostly because Romney didn't do enough. I'm not sure why he didn't bring up Libya, but that would have given him an edge. Obama kept going back to education, which was strange for a foreign policy debate. Yup, what this country needs is more unionized workers who's career advancement is based not on performance but tenure. Romney definitely missed some opportunities, but he came out looking composed and more presidential than the current President. Btw, how many times did Obama have to tell everyone he was "Commander in Chief" or the "current President of the United States"? Don't most people watching the debate aready know that? I think he just likes hearing himself say it.

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Old 10-23-2012, 09:30 AM   #19
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Romney kept his composure much better than Obama. Obama kept swallowing hard and looking nervous. Also, Obama got into his snippy mode trying to talk down to Romney because he can't handle someone pointing out when he's wrong.

I think it was very close, mostly because Romney didn't do enough. I'm not sure why he didn't bring up Libya, but that would have given him an edge. Obama kept going back to education, which was strange for a foreign policy debate. Yup, what this country needs is more unionized workers who's career advancement is based not on performance but tenure. Romney definitely missed some opportunities, but he came out looking composed and more presidential than the current President. Btw, how many times did Obama have to tell everyone he was "Commander in Chief" or the "current President of the United States"? Don't most people watching the debate aready know that? I think he just likes hearing himself say it.
Good analysis. Can't imagine why Romney didn't bring up Libya. If I read a transcript, I'd give Obama a small edge. Watching the video, I give Romney a small edge. He appeared more dignified, Obama looked defensive, because he is, and rightly so, as the wheels are coming off the Obama bus.

It's going to be close. 4 years ago, I thought it was a given that we'd have to endure 8 years of Obama looking down his nose at us. Hell, I'd have been happy with 8 years, as I was expecting the electorate to ignore the rules and appoint him for life.

This election gets decisded in OH, WI, CO, NV. Maybe PA, but I don't hink Romney has a shot there. I haven't seen a poll that has Romney ahead in Ohio. But I've seen polls be very wrong.
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Yup, what this country needs is more unionized workers who's career advancement is based not on performance but tenure.
The types of things that make my blood boil.

I raise my mug of coffee to you.
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:53 AM   #21
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I find it interesting that the Prez knows more about what Romney said in 2008 than whe he said on his apology tour where he was bowing to forgien leaders...

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Oh, by the way, what would you call a post election international tour where you downplay and belittle the US to many of our strongest adversaries in the middle east? Surely not the "Hope and Change" World Tour!
I still can't get over some of his simple flops that made him look more like Dan Quayle than anyone else!

When he referred to the 57 United States!

When he gave the Prime Minister of Great Britian a box set of dvd's as a gift, and they were the US version not the UK, so they couldn't be played on a european ddvd player!

When he won the nobel prize for just being the first black president. Imagine winning an award for doing nothing but just "being"???
(I guess they gave enough of them to scientist and scholars already?)

When he went on his world famous "Apology tour" after his surprising win.

I'm sure there's plenty more where these came from.
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When he went on his world famous "Apology tour" after his surprising win
Fact Checker - Obama's 'Apology Tour'

yeah... damn him and his apologies....

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Romney kept his composure much better than Obama. Obama kept swallowing hard and looking nervous. Also, Obama got into his snippy mode trying to talk down to Romney because he can't handle someone pointing out when he's wrong.

Romney definitely missed some opportunities, but he came out looking composed and more presidential than the current President.
Feel the same way FB. Obama threw out so much stuff he was boring
and came across as condecending and angry whenever Romney pointed
out his failures. He looked hunched over, sophmoric, and far from being
the Commander in Chief.
Romney came across as competent, Presidential and ready for the job.
If Obama was looking for the women's vote, he fell far short with his
demeanor in this debate.

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If Obama was looking for the women's vote, he fell far short with his
demeanor in this debate.
I was watching CNN and they have the line for women vs men for undecideds and Obama was soaring among women where it was pretty close in other debates.

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I was watching CNN and they have the line for women vs men for undecideds and Obama was soaring among women where it was pretty close in other debates.
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There must have been a repeat of debate one run as a re-run, thats what I figure these guys watched....

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I was watching CNN and they have the line for women vs men for undecideds and Obama was soaring among women where it was pretty close in other debates.
Musta been those snarley feminists in attendance.
They love to see a guy they can hold it over.

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Romney kept his composure much better than Obama. Obama kept swallowing hard and looking nervous. Also, Obama got into his snippy mode trying to talk down to Romney because he can't handle someone pointing out when he's wrong......
..Romney definitely missed some opportunities, but he came out looking composed and more presidential than the current President. Btw, how many times did Obama have to tell everyone he was "Commander in Chief" or the "current President of the United States"? Don't most people watching the debate aready know that? I think he just likes hearing himself say it.
First, Obama seemed to be throwing out lots of "facts and figures" (who's I can't say) and it looked like he wanted to steamroll over the true topic/question hoping Romney would falter. Only problem was Romney knew what the true topic/question was and would go back to the topic in order to stress his points. He had to do this repeatedly as Obama kept rolling along, question after question. I guess if you keep talking long enough, you hope to prevent your opponent from giving a rebuttal?

Second, Obama must be reminding everyone that he is "Commander in Chief" and "current President of the United States" because he may not be able to say it much longer!!!!
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Romney won the first one
Obama gained ground in the second one
Romney won the third one
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You really believe that on #3?

Even McCain this morning was saying Romney "did what he had to do" which to me is code word for he didn't fall on his face, but he didn't win..

It doesn't bother anyone how much he has flipped his positions on a lot of key issues? If I was a Neo-Con I'd be bald(er) right now pulling my hair out...

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