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10-22-2012, 07:59 PM
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Who's nose will grow the longest tonight?
Can't wait to hear the whoppers tonight. Too bad they are not like Pinocchio so we could instantly see the lies and how big they are. Did Pinocchio's nose grow only when he was knowingly lying or did it grow just a little when he said things he made up not knowing if they were true or not?
This should be entertaining. Obama desperately needs to wiggle out of the truths on Lybia. I wonder what the strategy will be and just how far the truth will be stretched (or lies compressed) to save his butt from the obvious Lybia embarrassment he has to face.
This whole election could just explode tonight depending on who is willing to say what and just how gullible the American People are! 
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10-22-2012, 08:20 PM
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I swear I just saw the President's ears grow! Does that count?
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10-22-2012, 08:41 PM
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Watching now, so far Big O is kicking arse
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10-22-2012, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
Watching now, so far Big O is kicking arse
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Just wait for the fact checks in about an hour !
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10-22-2012, 09:26 PM
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He said 10s of thousands were marching to support the US in Libya. I counted about 30.
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10-22-2012, 09:42 PM
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Romney's nose, Obama's ears
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10-22-2012, 10:18 PM
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10-22-2012, 11:51 PM
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I think Gary Johnson Tweeted it the best:
"#Obama says he's worried about innocent young people in the Middle East. Perhaps he should start by not killing them with drones. "
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10-23-2012, 06:17 AM
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Do all politicians blink their eyes rapidly at debates? or is that a nervous thing. I could not help but notice, then I got bored and they put me to sleep so I missed most of the debate 
I got thru the first question and into the second
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10-23-2012, 06:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
I think Gary Johnson Tweeted it the best:
"#Obama says he's worried about innocent young people in the Middle East. Perhaps he should start by not killing them with drones. "
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You forgot this one:
Gov. Gary Johnson @GovGaryJohnson
#Romney says he supports #Obama's use of #drones. I am the only candidate who will not use drones to murder innocent people.
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10-23-2012, 06:24 AM
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Obama reminds me of a washed up actor trying to hang on anyway he can.
His responses were sophomoric
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10-23-2012, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Obama reminds me of a washed up actor trying to hang on anyway he can.
His responses were sophomoric
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At least he didn't mention Poland 
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10-23-2012, 06:39 AM
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at this point the undecided are the target/goal of the campaigns and I think Romney appealed to that group and sounded far more Presidential than the President...arrogant, condescending and lecturing in demeaning tones and terms (look at me...I'm smarter than you...I'm the "EXPERT"), all Obama's greatest traits, might help pump up the base in many ways but I don't think those strategies sell that well with the undecided and in particular with women and with anyone who is continuining to struggle right now, we'll see....pretty soon 
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10-23-2012, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by likwid
At least he didn't mention Poland 
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Funny I was thinking mediocre had become the new normal under this administration so I guess "least"
Is the best we can expect.
Romney took the high road last night. I don't know if it was the best road but it does give "hope" for a "change" in the way things might be under a new administration
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10-23-2012, 07:34 AM
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Reading the reviews here, it appears Romny won the first 2 of the debates and I'm sure he won the 3rd. Must have been hot there as Romney was sweating bullets.
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10-23-2012, 07:37 AM
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New catch phrase, horses and bayonets. Mitt was right regarding the Navy and Obama knows it and still trotted out that horsebleep. Effing Politicians.
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
Do all politicians blink their eyes rapidly at debates? or is that a nervous thing. I could not help but notice, then I got bored and they put me to sleep so I missed most of the debate 
I got thru the first question and into the second
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They are blinking Morse code with their eye lids. Usually saying "Suckers" or "I'm Lying" or something. They sometimes have their fingers crossed too.
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10-23-2012, 07:46 AM
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Romney won the first one
Obama gained ground in the second one
Romney won the third one
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10-23-2012, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Mitt was right regarding the Navy and Obama knows it and still trotted out that horsebleep. Effing Politicians.
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No, Mitt is not even remotely close to right on the Navy.
Also maybe we all missed out on the whole thing through the 80's and 90's about streamlining the military in general, less vehicles, less ships, less money being blown on old infrastructure that was obsolete and worthless when we have lots of really really cool crap for multirole purposes?
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10-23-2012, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Piscator
Romney won the first one
Obama gained ground in the second one
Romney won the third one
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You really believe that on #3?
Even McCain this morning was saying Romney "did what he had to do" which to me is code word for he didn't fall on his face, but he didn't win..
It doesn't bother anyone how much he has flipped his positions on a lot of key issues? If I was a Neo-Con I'd be bald(er) right now pulling my hair out...
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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10-23-2012, 08:02 AM
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You really believe that on #3?
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I think he did have the edge. Obama has a foriegn policy record and it isn't good. Romney doesn't have a record but I think he was able to attack Obamas and speak effectively on world issues. He is well aware of what's going on and has done his homework.
I think he edged out Obama in the 3rd but not sure it's enough
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"I know a taxidermy man back home. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him!"
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10-23-2012, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Piscator
I think he did have the edge. Obama has a foriegn policy record and it isn't good. Romney doesn't have a record but I think he was able to attack Obamas and speak effectively on world issues. He is well aware of what's going on and has done his homework.
I think he edged out Obama in the 3rd but not sure it's enough
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His homework was to flip his positions and mirror the President in a lot of respects... I guess Obama can't be all wrong then....
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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10-23-2012, 08:18 AM
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I thought Obama destroyed Mitt in the debate. I dont think Romney scored one punch. Every point he made was to agree with Obama.
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10-23-2012, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
I thought Obama destroyed Mitt in the debate. I dont think Romney scored one punch. Every point he made was to agree with Obama.
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Liberal apologist...  Texas is making you soft, boy.... 
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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10-23-2012, 08:37 AM
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Liberal apologist...  Texas is making you soft, boy.... 
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I look so pretty in pink.
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10-23-2012, 08:37 AM
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I also thought it was interesting that Andy Hiller for channel 7 this morning felt that Romney won the debate.
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10-23-2012, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Reading the reviews here, it appears Romny won the first 2 of the debates and I'm sure he won the 3rd. Must have been hot there as Romney was sweating bullets.
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Romney kept his composure much better than Obama. Obama kept swallowing hard and looking nervous. Also, Obama got into his snippy mode trying to talk down to Romney because he can't handle someone pointing out when he's wrong.
I think it was very close, mostly because Romney didn't do enough. I'm not sure why he didn't bring up Libya, but that would have given him an edge. Obama kept going back to education, which was strange for a foreign policy debate. Yup, what this country needs is more unionized workers who's career advancement is based not on performance but tenure. Romney definitely missed some opportunities, but he came out looking composed and more presidential than the current President. Btw, how many times did Obama have to tell everyone he was "Commander in Chief" or the "current President of the United States"? Don't most people watching the debate aready know that? I think he just likes hearing himself say it.
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10-23-2012, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Piscator
I also thought it was interesting that Andy Hiller for channel 7 this morning felt that Romney won the debate.
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My dog won the debate.
She's way cooler than either of the candidates.
The end.
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10-23-2012, 09:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
No, Mitt is not even remotely close to right on the Navy.
Also maybe we all missed out on the whole thing through the 80's and 90's about streamlining the military in general, less vehicles, less ships, less money being blown on old infrastructure that was obsolete and worthless when we have lots of really really cool crap for multirole purposes?
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Err, no. We did streamline the military in the 90s, perhaps too much. But we did not streamline requirements and missions.
And at what point do we go from streamlining to gutting?
The 2000s were horrible for the Navy ship counts and this is only accelerating now (though to the O admin's credit somewhat stabilized for now though the can is still getting kicked).
The Navy is by hull count the smallest it has been in nearly 100 years. But the missions have not. Ships spend far more time deployed at sea, with smaller overworked crews (and less people to do the simple stuff), with bigger repair needs, than at any time since WWII.
That would indicate that there are not enough hulls to do the missions.
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10-23-2012, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by fishbones
Romney kept his composure much better than Obama. Obama kept swallowing hard and looking nervous. Also, Obama got into his snippy mode trying to talk down to Romney because he can't handle someone pointing out when he's wrong.
I think it was very close, mostly because Romney didn't do enough. I'm not sure why he didn't bring up Libya, but that would have given him an edge. Obama kept going back to education, which was strange for a foreign policy debate. Yup, what this country needs is more unionized workers who's career advancement is based not on performance but tenure. Romney definitely missed some opportunities, but he came out looking composed and more presidential than the current President. Btw, how many times did Obama have to tell everyone he was "Commander in Chief" or the "current President of the United States"? Don't most people watching the debate aready know that? I think he just likes hearing himself say it.
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Good analysis. Can't imagine why Romney didn't bring up Libya. If I read a transcript, I'd give Obama a small edge. Watching the video, I give Romney a small edge. He appeared more dignified, Obama looked defensive, because he is, and rightly so, as the wheels are coming off the Obama bus.
It's going to be close. 4 years ago, I thought it was a given that we'd have to endure 8 years of Obama looking down his nose at us. Hell, I'd have been happy with 8 years, as I was expecting the electorate to ignore the rules and appoint him for life.
This election gets decisded in OH, WI, CO, NV. Maybe PA, but I don't hink Romney has a shot there. I haven't seen a poll that has Romney ahead in Ohio. But I've seen polls be very wrong.
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10-23-2012, 09:49 AM
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Yup, what this country needs is more unionized workers who's career advancement is based not on performance but tenure.
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The types of things that make my blood boil.
I raise my mug of coffee to you.
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