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11-04-2009, 05:41 PM
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Permanently Disconnected
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RI fishing license
Off the RISAA reflector...
"Today Governor Carcieri, who in the past has been a friend to the
recreational fishing community, has used his veto power to kill the
saltwater fishing license.
It looks like we will all have to pay the feds $25 after next year
instead of $7 to our own state.
Thanks Governor!"

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11-04-2009, 06:20 PM
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Location: Warwick
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does this mean RI DEM or RI DFW will have to check for federal Licenses?
I find it hard to believe RI will use its resources to enforce this when they never enforce existing RI FW licenses.
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11-04-2009, 06:24 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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11-04-2009, 06:31 PM
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here's the pdf of what was sent.
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11-04-2009, 06:43 PM
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Registered User
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Location: newport
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I believe the legislature can override a Gov veto.
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11-04-2009, 07:21 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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I love the sentiment, I love the premise, I love the honoring of the right to fish in the state's constitution. In my heart I am all behind this.
But in my mind, that water long ago went over the dam. The people worked their tails off to get something fair with regards to a license.
Oi veh, a rare time I hope the Gov's veto is overturned.

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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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11-04-2009, 07:31 PM
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BuzzLuck
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brockton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
Off the RISAA reflector...
"Today Governor Carcieri, who in the past has been a friend to the
recreational fishing community, has used his veto power to kill the
saltwater fishing license.
It looks like we will all have to pay the feds $25 after next year
instead of $7 to our own state.
Thanks Governor!"

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IMO: Reading the disapproval letter by the Governor (and I am not from RI), it seems to me that the Governor believes that by vetoing the RI license he is in effect also preventing the Fed license from taking effect in the state: "RI's are born with that right".
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 Given the diversity of the human species, there is no “normal” human genome sequence. We are all mutants.
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11-04-2009, 07:33 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PRBuzz
IMO: Reading the disapproval letter by the Governor (and I am not from RI), it seems to me that the Governor believes that by vetoing the RI license he is in effect also preventing the Fed license from taking effect in the state: "RI's are born with that right".
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I hope so, and I hope he wants to fight it but if not, this is just blunderous.
Being discussed on 630 PRO now: .:: 630 WPRO & 99.7 FM - Rhode Island's Station of Record ::.
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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11-04-2009, 07:33 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Sturbridge MA
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I give your governor credit for standing up. I agree that a lot of people worked hard to get a fair license. I would rather pay a state than the feds.
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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11-04-2009, 08:05 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PRBuzz
IMO: Reading the disapproval letter by the Governor (and I am not from RI), it seems to me that the Governor believes that by vetoing the RI license he is in effect also preventing the Fed license from taking effect in the state: "RI's are born with that right".
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If he really believes that the 10th Amendment and "states' rights" is still viable in 2009, you should insist that he pee in a cup and impeach him when he tests positive. 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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11-04-2009, 09:16 PM
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Registered User
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Location: NY
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next thing you know you'll need an air breathing licence
do you know Jones Beach has an $ sky watching permit ?
I knew bottled water was the end of the world as we know it
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11-05-2009, 08:15 AM
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slow eddie
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rhode Island
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i'm shocked, yes shocked, that the members of this board would actually believe that the politico's would keep their grubby little mitts off this money.
another chance to give their deserving nephew/ niece a nice paying $150,000 a yr. job at the taxpayer expence. this has been going on since time immortal, just not so out in the open as it is now.
off course if they did collect the fees and actually do something with the money for the sportsmans benifit, therin would be the shock.
over a year since they graded the deephole parking lot. over 6mo. since camp cronin. you can lose nebe's vw. in the holes
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put them back alive. i do have grandkids.
as your hair gets whiter, your gear gets lighter.
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11-05-2009, 10:56 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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Can all ready see it... Mr Chevy executive we are sending you to RI but seeing as its small and we have the right we are gonna buy ya a nice big boat.... We know you never been on one but the guys at the dealer say it does 65mph so we got ya that one and just remember its like running the tractor back home you will do fine....
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11-05-2009, 11:03 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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I77, I think this is regarding a fishing license, not a boating license (which I am 100% in favor of...) stupid boating is just as dangerous as bad driving in a car!
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-05-2009, 12:54 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
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NO just sayin the government owns GM so now with this crap Itll prob turn into GM exec playground in our waters.. sorry bad comparison I know....
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11-05-2009, 01:37 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
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This is all political grandstanding. No I don't want to pay a license fee but if my $7 goes back into the fishery then I'm all for it. Of coarse it won't..
Now if there are 1000 people who buy the license (many just won't buy it since enforcement will be very difficult and they will plead dumb if caught) the grand total is $7000. Now tell me why the Governer is vetoing it and grandstanding about it and its on the radio etc all for just $7000 in a state that is in hock by about 400 million? Now overall I like Carcieri and he's not running for reelection but his party and reputation do benefit from him being "for the people" on this huge $7000 issue.
Just political grandstanding.
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11-05-2009, 03:22 PM
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Location: MA/RI
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If RI has a federal registry then will MA licensees be able to fish RI waters w/o registering in RI?
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11-05-2009, 03:30 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redsoxticket
If RI has a federal registry then will MA licensees be able to fish RI waters w/o registering in RI?
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The way it reads is Yes - if Mass uses the federal registry and No if they have their own registry
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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11-06-2009, 11:19 AM
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Sorry I have to disagree with most of you. The MSA only requires anglers fishing in state waters to register if they are fishing for androminous (sp?) fish. Basically that mean stripers. There is no way the feds can enforce this for 99% of the people fishing in RI waters. I can see a lot of guys bluefishing with eels in the future.  So far NONE of the New England states, except for CT have enacted a salt water license and I'd like to see it stay that way. We should all tell the feds to buzz off. Basically the license is a NMFS/MRIP brainstorm, so they don't have to go through the work of creating their own registry. They can see the handwriting on the wall, if the states don't do it, the whole thing is going to fail miserably.
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11-06-2009, 04:56 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Well I am now officially a scup fisherman so I do not need a license. Scup take eels right? I have been making some needlefish and Danny swimmers just for the scup migration. 
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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11-06-2009, 05:09 PM
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Registered User
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"To be a able to fish in the Saltwaters of Rhode Island is a birthright"
I'm pretty damn happy the Governor had the stones to tell the Feds to pound sand.
Being upset that him standing up for our rights as fisherman, taxpayers, and citizens b/c of the risk of having to pay $25 is sad.
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11-06-2009, 05:45 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MakoMike
Sorry I have to disagree with most of you. The MSA only requires anglers fishing in state waters to register if they are fishing for androminous (sp?) fish. Basically that mean stripers. There is no way the feds can enforce this for 99% of the people fishing in RI waters. I can see a lot of guys bluefishing with eels in the future.  So far NONE of the New England states, except for CT have enacted a salt water license and I'd like to see it stay that way. We should all tell the feds to buzz off. Basically the license is a NMFS/MRIP brainstorm, so they don't have to go through the work of creating their own registry. They can see the handwriting on the wall, if the states don't do it, the whole thing is going to fail miserably.
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How do they enforce the rule that prohibits targeting bass in the EEZ?
I'll tell you how--if you're fishing a location, and fishing for "bluefish", and on 20 drifts you catch 20 bass, and you keep on setting up drifts and catching bass, they can prove that you're targeting bass.
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