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Old 02-24-2015, 01:41 PM   #9
Jim in CT
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As usual Jim your opinion is valuable but it is also a load of crap

The myth you speak of is more reality than your research unveiled. Unless of course you live in Denmark where women earn 2% more than men in equal circumstances. Next in line come Norway and Singapore where women are compensated at an 80% rate in the wage comparison. The U.S. however is ranked 65th in the world with a generous 66% rate that just climbed 1% in 2014. These numbers were provided by CNN but I hope you get the idea that you could not be more wrong,
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But it's not that simple. If all thye female accountants at the big six firms earn 20% less than men (making that up), that does not mean you can say "women get paid less than men". In this country, at this time in our history, men tend to be more focused onm their careers than women. I have never seen a study that, when normalized for that difference, showed a meaningful discrepancy.

You can't just compare average salaries for men vs women, you need to "normalize" (math term) to make the comparison apples to apples.

If you had taken the time to post any of your surveys, I would guess that they are simply comparing average pay for men and women. Here are surveys which show that, when you remove the justifiable differences in pay that result when one gender takes on a large share of household responsibilities, the "gender pay gap" disappears. Don't take my word for it, here are but a few...

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...ge-gap/276367/ - "It might be the most famous statistic about female workers in the United States: Women earn "only 72 percent as much as their male counterparts. It's also famously false."

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba766 - "Comparing single childless women to single childless men, ages 35-43, the wage gap not only disappears, but instead becomes a wage premium. Nevertheless, Americans are likely to hear much about the much-exaggerated wage gap during the election campaign."

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014...83752909957472 - "Once education, marital status and occupations are considered, the 'gender wage gap' all but disappears."

http://www.slate.com/articles/double...ery_man_s.html - "The official Bureau of Labor Department statistics show that the median earnings of full-time female workers is 77 percent of the median earnings of full-time male workers. But that is very different than “77 cents on the dollar for doing the same work as men.” "“Full time” officially means 35 hours, but men work more hours than women. That’s the first problem: We could be comparing men working 40 hours to women working 35."

"you could not be more wrong,"

It's not "me". You are saying that Obama's Bureau Of Labor Statistics, in addition to the Wall Street Journal and the National Association of Certified Public Accountants, are all wrong.

Let's see that CNN study? If it simply shows that all women who work "full time" earn 77% of what "men who work full time" earn, that is bullsh*t. If yuo can show me that women who work the same number of hours at the same job as men, still earn substantially less, then you have a point.

If there's a gender pay gap, I want to fix it. But the simple fact that "women get paid less than men" doesn't even come close to establishing that theory. Sorry if that spits in th eface of yoru agenda. I'm not reacting to ideology here, just the facts I posted (and I could have posted dozens more).

Try making that wrong.
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