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02-10-2016, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
It is silly, but super delegates are not new to 2016....
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How about the practice of undermining the democtratic process, is that new? Has a demeocratic candidate ever gotten this screwed before?
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02-10-2016, 04:26 PM
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this is how Sanders explains the current economic situation in this country...
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02-10-2016, 04:37 PM
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this is how Sanders explains the current economic situation in this country...
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There's some truth to that cartoon, but it's highly exaggerated.
Take the favorite liberal target of corporate greed, WalMart.
Accordsing to this abcnews link, the CEO recenly had annual compensation of $35 million.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/walma...ry?id=11067470
From this article, Wal-mart employees 1.4 million people in the US.
http://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-employees-pay
So, how much is the CEO "stealing" from the working stiff? Well, if we assume that the CEO worked for free, and divided his $35 million compensation evenly among all 1.4 million employees, each one would get an extra $25 a year. Exactly $25 a year.
Whoop-dee-doo.
Nebe, I would never argue it's "fair" that a CEO makes $35 million, because it's not "fair". But it's also demonstrably false to suggest that CEO compensation is the reason why the wages of regular folks are not increasing. For most large companies, CEO compensation is a very small drop in the bucket.
The math is, what the math is.
I have worked for huge companies. I'd happily sacrfice $25 a year to have a good CEO who could run the company with skill.
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02-10-2016, 06:20 PM
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Right on point Jim ,$25 each employee for a $35 million CEO salary about says it all.
If he is a good CEO and increases revenue that will increase
the employees IRA, many times over, including the increase
$$$ for outside stock holders who will spend more.
In addition the $35 million doesn't leave the economy,
but a large part goes back in the economy creating increased sales
for other companies, charities and taxes.
The libs would have you believe the guy keeps it out of the
economy and walks around with it as a big roll in his pocket. LOL
A big pseudo play on creating jealousy.
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" Choose Life "
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02-10-2016, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Right on point Jim ,$25 each employee for a $35 million CEO salary about says it all.
If he is a good CEO and increases revenue that will increase
the employees IRA, many times over, including the increase
$$$ for outside stock holders who will spend more.
In addition the $35 million doesn't leave the economy,
but a large part goes back in the economy creating increased sales
for other companies, charities and taxes.
The libs would have you believe the guy keeps it out of the
economy and walks around with it as a big roll in his pocket. LOL
A big pseudo play on creating jealousy.
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Most CEOs, who's compensation is reported in the multi millions, have a large portion of that paid in company stock .
The same people that complain about their pay , think nothing of buying a $125 ticket to a game to watch their 30 million a year stud quarterback throw a pass .
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02-10-2016, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
There's some truth to that cartoon, but it's highly exaggerated.
Take the favorite liberal target of corporate greed, WalMart.
Accordsing to this abcnews link, the CEO recenly had annual compensation of $35 million.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/walma...ry?id=11067470
From this article, Wal-mart employees 1.4 million people in the US.
http://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-employees-pay
So, how much is the CEO "stealing" from the working stiff? Well, if we assume that the CEO worked for free, and divided his $35 million compensation evenly among all 1.4 million employees, each one would get an extra $25 a year. Exactly $25 a year.
Whoop-dee-doo.
Nebe, I would never argue it's "fair" that a CEO makes $35 million, because it's not "fair". But it's also demonstrably false to suggest that CEO compensation is the reason why the wages of regular folks are not increasing. For most large companies, CEO compensation is a very small drop in the bucket.
The math is, what the math is.
I have worked for huge companies. I'd happily sacrfice $25 a year to have a good CEO who could run the company with skill.
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I have done zero research into this but the CEO of Walmart runs he company. He doesn't own it. Look into how much money the family that owns it sucked from the company. Then look at how many employees are payed so little that they have to use government assistance and food stamps, which you and I pay for.
Not everything is black and white.
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02-10-2016, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
I have done zero research into this but...
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02-10-2016, 08:08 PM
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Bam
http://walmart1percent.org/family/
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02-10-2016, 08:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
I have done zero research into this but the CEO of Walmart runs he company. He doesn't own it. Look into how much money the family that owns it sucked from the company. Then look at how many employees are payed so little that they have to use government assistance and food stamps, which you and I pay for.
Not everything is black and white.
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Nebe, the owners of the company are entitled to the profits. They own the company. That's what "ownership" means. Do you hold onto the things you own? Or do you give it all away?
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02-10-2016, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
How about the practice of undermining the democratic process, is that new? Has a democratic candidate ever gotten this screwed before?
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Probably, you may see the same thing happen to Trump....
The system has aspects that suck, but it is the system we have.. Go back to the Popular Vote? Good evening President Gore....
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Bryan
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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02-10-2016, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Probably, you may see the same thing happen to Trump....
The system has aspects that suck, but it is the system we have.. Go back to the Popular Vote? Good evening President Gore....
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Probably not. The Democrats have their own special system .
It is pretty ironic though isn't it? Bernie worked so hard for something only to have it taken away and given to somebody that doesn't deserve it 😂😂
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02-11-2016, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Probably not. The Democrats have their own special system .
It is pretty ironic though isn't it? Bernie worked so hard for something only to have it taken away and given to somebody that doesn't deserve it
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 Giddayup....redistribution of delegates!
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02-10-2016, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Probably, you may see the same thing happen to Trump....
The system has aspects that suck, but it is the system we have.. Go back to the Popular Vote? Good evening President Gore....
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In the electoral college, within a state, it is by popular vote.
She has NINE TIMES the delegates he has. One state was a tie, in one state she got clobbered. And she has nine times the delegates.
That doesn't come close to resembling democracy, I dare you to make that wrong. You can't.
A small number of people controlling that party, will decide who the nominee is. The people have no say. If Trump wins the states with the most delegates, it would piss me off if a small number of GOP kingmakers took that from him.
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