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02-10-2016, 02:01 PM
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Hillary ended up with more delegates in NH then Bernie I believe . The fix is in . The Democrats don't care about your vote .
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02-10-2016, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Hillary ended up with more delegates in NH then Bernie I believe . The fix is in . The Democrats don't care about your vote .
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Is that true? He detroyed her in the votes.
The powers-that-be, will never let him get the nomination, and if he somehow got it, Hilary (or Biden or Gore) would run as a 3rd party. |
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02-10-2016, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Hillary ended up with more delegates in NH then Bernie I believe . The fix is in . The Democrats don't care about your vote .
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I looked it up, you are right, because there are 8 "super delegates" who can go with whoever they want, regardless of the voting turnout.
Nebe, how do you like that? Sanders crushes her in New Hampshire, yet he falls further behind her in terms of getting the nomination.
How democratic.
Why bother with the primaries?
Listen to this, from the article..."In the overall delegate count, Clinton holds a commanding lead after a razor-thin victory in Iowa and a shellacking in New Hampshire. Clinton has 394 delegates, both super and electorally assigned, to only 42 for Sanders"
She has almost 10 times as many delegates as he does, despite the fact that it was a virtual tie in Iowa, and the fact that he destroyed her in NH.
Spence? Your opinion on the matter?
http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/10/hi...rs-after-loss/ |
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02-10-2016, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I looked it up, you are right, because there are 8 "super delegates" who can go with whoever they want, regardless of the voting turnout.
Nebe, how do you like that? Sanders crushes her in New Hampshire, yet he falls further behind her in terms of getting the nomination.
How democratic.
Why bother with the primaries?
Listen to this, from the article..."In the overall delegate count, Clinton holds a commanding lead after a razor-thin victory in Iowa and a shellacking in New Hampshire. Clinton has 394 delegates, both super and electorally assigned, to only 42 for Sanders"
She has almost 10 times as many delegates as he does, despite the fact that it was a virtual tie in Iowa, and the fact that he destroyed her in NH.
Spence? Your opinion on the matter?
http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/10/hi...rs-after-loss/ |
It is silly, but super delegates are not new to 2016.... |
Bryan
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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02-10-2016, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
It is silly, but super delegates are not new to 2016....
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How about the practice of undermining the democtratic process, is that new? Has a demeocratic candidate ever gotten this screwed before? |
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02-10-2016, 04:26 PM
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this is how Sanders explains the current economic situation in this country...
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02-10-2016, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
this is how Sanders explains the current economic situation in this country...
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There's some truth to that cartoon, but it's highly exaggerated.
Take the favorite liberal target of corporate greed, WalMart.
Accordsing to this abcnews link, the CEO recenly had annual compensation of $35 million.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/walma...ry?id=11067470
From this article, Wal-mart employees 1.4 million people in the US.
http://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-employees-pay
So, how much is the CEO "stealing" from the working stiff? Well, if we assume that the CEO worked for free, and divided his $35 million compensation evenly among all 1.4 million employees, each one would get an extra $25 a year. Exactly $25 a year.
Whoop-dee-doo.
Nebe, I would never argue it's "fair" that a CEO makes $35 million, because it's not "fair". But it's also demonstrably false to suggest that CEO compensation is the reason why the wages of regular folks are not increasing. For most large companies, CEO compensation is a very small drop in the bucket.
The math is, what the math is.
I have worked for huge companies. I'd happily sacrfice $25 a year to have a good CEO who could run the company with skill. |
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02-10-2016, 06:20 PM
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Right on point Jim ,$25 each employee for a $35 million CEO salary about says it all.
If he is a good CEO and increases revenue that will increase
the employees IRA, many times over, including the increase
$$$ for outside stock holders who will spend more.
In addition the $35 million doesn't leave the economy,
but a large part goes back in the economy creating increased sales
for other companies, charities and taxes.
The libs would have you believe the guy keeps it out of the
economy and walks around with it as a big roll in his pocket. LOL
A big pseudo play on creating jealousy.
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02-10-2016, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
There's some truth to that cartoon, but it's highly exaggerated.
Take the favorite liberal target of corporate greed, WalMart.
Accordsing to this abcnews link, the CEO recenly had annual compensation of $35 million.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/walma...ry?id=11067470
From this article, Wal-mart employees 1.4 million people in the US.
http://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-employees-pay
So, how much is the CEO "stealing" from the working stiff? Well, if we assume that the CEO worked for free, and divided his $35 million compensation evenly among all 1.4 million employees, each one would get an extra $25 a year. Exactly $25 a year.
Whoop-dee-doo.
Nebe, I would never argue it's "fair" that a CEO makes $35 million, because it's not "fair". But it's also demonstrably false to suggest that CEO compensation is the reason why the wages of regular folks are not increasing. For most large companies, CEO compensation is a very small drop in the bucket.
The math is, what the math is.
I have worked for huge companies. I'd happily sacrfice $25 a year to have a good CEO who could run the company with skill. |
I have done zero research into this but the CEO of Walmart runs he company. He doesn't own it. Look into how much money the family that owns it sucked from the company. Then look at how many employees are payed so little that they have to use government assistance and food stamps, which you and I pay for.
Not everything is black and white.
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02-10-2016, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
How about the practice of undermining the democratic process, is that new? Has a democratic candidate ever gotten this screwed before?
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Probably, you may see the same thing happen to Trump....
The system has aspects that suck, but it is the system we have.. Go back to the Popular Vote? Good evening President Gore.... |
Bryan
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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02-10-2016, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Probably, you may see the same thing happen to Trump....
The system has aspects that suck, but it is the system we have.. Go back to the Popular Vote? Good evening President Gore....
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Probably not. The Democrats have their own special system .
It is pretty ironic though isn't it? Bernie worked so hard for something only to have it taken away and given to somebody that doesn't deserve it 😂😂
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02-11-2016, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Probably not. The Democrats have their own special system .
It is pretty ironic though isn't it? Bernie worked so hard for something only to have it taken away and given to somebody that doesn't deserve it ����
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 Giddayup....redistribution of delegates!
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02-10-2016, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Probably, you may see the same thing happen to Trump....
The system has aspects that suck, but it is the system we have.. Go back to the Popular Vote? Good evening President Gore....
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In the electoral college, within a state, it is by popular vote.
She has NINE TIMES the delegates he has. One state was a tie, in one state she got clobbered. And she has nine times the delegates.
That doesn't come close to resembling democracy, I dare you to make that wrong. You can't.
A small number of people controlling that party, will decide who the nominee is. The people have no say. If Trump wins the states with the most delegates, it would piss me off if a small number of GOP kingmakers took that from him. |
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02-10-2016, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
It is silly, but super delegates are not new to 2016....
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It's beyond silly, it is corrupt to the core. When Hillary wins the nomination ,by the votes of corrupt super-delegates , there should be an uproar in your party .
But the silence will be deafening.
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02-11-2016, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Hillary ended up with more delegates in NH then Bernie I believe . The fix is in . The Democrats don't care about your vote .
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Seems you got your outrage Email right on time .. Watch out there are some beyonce controversy email in the pipe line
Some one has already made the point just like Iowa's Coin flip and now Super delegates.. this isn't new .. Just another example have Facts seem not to matter its Just another Conspiracy undiscovered By Conservatives
http://www.pastemagazine.com/article...tablishme.html |
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02-11-2016, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Seems you got your outrage Email right on time .. Watch out there are some beyonce controversy email in the pipe line
Some one has already made the point just like Iowa's Coin flip and now Super delegates.. this isn't new .. Just another example have Facts seem not to matter its Just another Conspiracy undiscovered By Conservatives
http://www.pastemagazine.com/article...tablishme.html |
She has 9 times as many delegates. She barely won Iowa, and got creamed in NH. And the guy who wrote your article, says we shouldn't care about that, because up until now, superdelegates have never decided anything.
Here's my question - why do they exist at all? For what purpose? Please answer.
Bernie won NH by the largest margin ever, I believe. And after that primary, he fell further behind Hilary. If that's democracy, I fail to see how, and you can never explain that away. |
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02-11-2016, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
She has 9 times as many delegates. She barely won Iowa, and got creamed in NH. And the guy who wrote your article, says we shouldn't care about that, because up until now, superdelegates have never decided anything.
Here's my question - why do they exist at all? For what purpose? Please answer.
Bernie won NH by the largest margin ever, I believe. And after that primary, he fell further behind Hilary. If that's democracy, I fail to see how, and you can never explain that away.
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02-11-2016, 10:04 AM
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Constitutional Republic, not to be confused with a dictatorship of the proletatiat
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True, we are a republic, but in a democratic republic, officials are supposed to reflect the will of the people they are supposed to serve (you can take time to laugh at that if you want).
I believe all democrats in congress are superdelegates. Who are the other superdelegates? I presume not all of them are elected, that some are appointed. In which case, they are not answerable to the voters, therefore the voters have zero say in how they vote. That's precisely contrary to everything we were founded upon. |
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02-11-2016, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Seems you got your outrage Email right on time .. Watch out there are some beyonce controversy email in the pipe line
Some one has already made the point just like Iowa's Coin flip and now Super delegates.. this isn't new .. Just another example have Facts seem not to matter its Just another Conspiracy undiscovered By Conservatives
http://www.pastemagazine.com/article...tablishme.html |
I see you got your, be a condescending ass memo
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