Hilary tells CNN she has never lied to the public

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Last night in SC Hillary got to blame "Whitey" for all the blacks problems....just friggin awesome....

Got to throw out all the buzz words, Systematic racism and White Privilege.....real prize she is.

I figure since I got the sexist label you might as well throw out the racist label
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Did you actually read what she said?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Did you actually read what she said?

“Tackling and ending systemic racism requires contributions from all of us. White Americans, we need to do a better job of listening when African Americans talk about the seen and unseen barriers they face every day,” Mrs. Clinton said. “We need to recognize our privilege and practice humility rather than assume our experiences are everyone’s experiences.”

Originally Posted by spence

Did you see her comment talking about white privilege? She wasn't blaming whitey, she was just stating the obvious that blacks and whites are treated differently and we shouldn't ignore this.

Then who are these White Americans that NEED to do a better job.....and who is this "WE" that needs to recognize OUR privilege?

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

“Tackling and ending systemic racism requires contributions from all of us. White Americans, we need to do a better job of listening when African Americans talk about the seen and unseen barriers they face every day,” Mrs. Clinton said. “We need to recognize our privilege and practice humility rather than assume our experiences are everyone’s experiences.”

And that's wrong how?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

And that's wrong how?

Did you even read my post?

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Did you even read my post?

You edited it after I responded.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

And that's wrong how?

Spence, answer me this.

Hilary says we nee dto do a better job of listening when blacks speak, and of showing humility, and of admitting our priviledge.

How is that consistent with what she did during the 2008 primary season...back then, the blacks said they wanted Obama to be President. Did she show humility, listen, admit her priviledge, and step aside to get out of Obama's way? Or did she spend tens of millions of dollars fighting him, right up until the convention, using everything at her disposal to take the nomination from him?

Clearly, she feels no obligation to make any personal sacrifices as reparations for her white priviledge? So where does she get the moral authourity to ask everyine else to do that which she clearly had no intention of doing?

Have fun with that!

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

“Tackling and ending systemic racism requires contributions from all of us. White Americans, we need to do a better job of listening when African Americans talk about the seen and unseen barriers they face every day,” Mrs. Clinton said. “We need to recognize our privilege and practice humility rather than assume our experiences are everyone’s experiences.”



Then who are these White Americans that NEED to do a better job.....and who is this "WE" that needs to recognize OUR privilege?

Pure liberal horesh*t.

"we need to do a better job of listening when African Americans talk "

Oh, that's rich. Back during the 2008 primaries, blacks spoke out and said they wanted Barack Obama to be President. Did she "listen" to them, as she is demanding that we all do, and step aside and say "OK, if that's what you want, then in recognition of my priviledge, I will practice humility and get out of his way"? Or did she spend tens of millions of dollars to fight him, right up until the convention? What did she do to "listen"? When a black man was between her and what she wanted for herself, did she step aside? Not as I recall!

It's ALWAYS do as I say, not as I do.

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Then who are these White Americans that NEED to do a better job.....and who is this "WE" that needs to recognize OUR privilege?

She's giving her perspective on a collective we.

I know a black guy who get's pulled over by cops all the time, yet it never happens to me. Do you deny this doesn't exist?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

She's giving her perspective on a collective we.

I know a black guy who get's pulled over by cops all the time, yet it never happens to me. Do you deny this doesn't exist?

(1) In a nation of 300 million, the observed sample of two people, means exactly zilch.

(2) that being said, yes it happens in law enforcement. Does that contribute to black poverty or unemployment? No. It efefcts quality of life, not economic disparities.

(3) and there was that black "knockout game" last year, where youngblacks would sucker-punch innocent white people. Racism, sadly, exists. In a diverse nation of 300 million people, it always will. And it goes in both directions.

As I said (and you conveniently ignored), if a black kid is born into a stable, loving, well-to-do family, he will likely do well. If a white kid is born to a single mom who is a drug addict, that kid will struggle. So race isn't the determining factor. The determining factor, is the dynamic o fthe family that you are born into. Do you deny that? If so, I'd just love to hear why.

It gets tiresome.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

She's giving her perspective on a collective we.

I know a black guy who get's pulled over by cops all the time, yet it never happens to me. Do you deny this doesn't exist?

Yes, it doesn't exist. From my perspective the black guy is lying. And as far as it "never" happens to you, your not dead yet. And, I am white (at least that's my perspective), and it has happened to me. Though not all the time. I would still be stuck somewhere getting a ticket if it happened all the time.