Hilary tells CNN she has never lied to the public

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Originally Posted by buckman

I think if it comes down to Trump and Hillary , which it looks like it will , you will see a lot of sensationalism . You're also going to see Hillary called out like never before . I almost feel bad for her going against some one with F U money and a large portion of the American people on his side .
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Love it, a 25 year long industry dedicated to tearing the Clinton's down yet we've not seen anything yet. Right

I think under-appreciating her resilience and skills would be a big mistake. Trump can't respond to Hillary giving an insightful response on foreign policy, economics or domestic issues with a wedgie or wet willie during a debate.

Trump is all hat and no cattle and while many Americans are mad at the government his childish antics are really getting old.

[buckman]

[QUOTE=spence;1094333]Love it, a 25 year long industry dedicated to tearing the Clinton's down yet we've not seen anything yet. Right

I think under-appreciating her resilience and skills would be a big mistake. Trump can't respond to Hillary giving an insightful response on foreign policy, economics or domestic issues with a wedgie or wet willie during a debate.

Trump is all hat and no cattle and while many Americans are mad at the government his childish antics are really getting old.[/QUOTE

You are probably right , she is without sin . Such an honorable lady . A saint if you will .
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Love it, a 25 year long industry dedicated to tearing the Clinton's down yet we've not seen anything yet. Right

I think under-appreciating her resilience and skills would be a big mistake. Trump can't respond to Hillary giving an insightful response on foreign policy, economics or domestic issues with a wedgie or wet willie during a debate.

Trump is all hat and no cattle and while many Americans are mad at the government his childish antics are really getting old.

I don't want to "tear her down", I just want her out of public service, I thiink her policies are counterproductive. The reason she's still around, is because (like the Kennedys), the Clintons are somehow able to get people like you to put aside any critical thought, and refuse to hold them accountable for anything they do.

"Trump is all hat and no cattle "

He's a billionaire. He's got some cattle somewhere. You want to see what "all hat and no cattle" looks like, look at the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

"under-appreciating her resilience and skills would be a big mistake. Trump can't respond to Hillary giving an insightful response on foreign policy"

The hell he can't! He sure as hell can say "look what Iraq looked like when you were sworn in as Secstate, and look at what it looks like now. And if you want to talk foreign policy, let's talk about that trip where you say you came under sniper attack."

What's her response to that? Is she going to blame Bush for the invasion, even though she staunchly supported it? Why not, you won't question her when she does it.

I have very little use for Trump. One thing he will do, is beat her up when she's slinging BS. For example, when she started patting herself on the back for being a feminist, Trump immediately (and correctly) claimed that no one who enables her husband's behavior, no one who attacks the character of her husband's victims, has any business calling herself a feminist. We need someone who isn't afraid to throw an elbow when she is begging for it. Neither McCain nor Romney would do it to Obama.

In the end, if it's Trump v Hilary, she will win at least 48 states. But he will call her out when she is spouting BS.

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

He's a billionaire. He's got some cattle somewhere. You want to see what "all hat and no cattle" looks like, look at the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

I can't imagine how a reasonably intelligent person who inherits tens of millions of dollars and has countless family political connections couldn't do very well for themselves. And then given that, how many of Trumps businesses have been total failures? Have you ever read about Trump University? How much has he sloughed off with the multiple bankruptcies? I hear he has nice golf courses, the one thing you could say he's excelled at is reality TV...lord.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I can't imagine how a reasonably intelligent person who inherits tens of millions of dollars and has countless family political connections couldn't do very well for themselves. And then given that, how many of Trumps businesses have been total failures? Have you ever read about Trump University? How much has he sloughed off with the multiple bankruptcies? I hear he has nice golf courses, the one thing you could say he's excelled at is reality TV...lord.

I didn't say he was a genius. he managed to gro wthat, and not screw it up too bad.

"how many of Trumps businesses have been total failures?"

More than zero. Is every one of those, his fault? Or sometimes, do macro-economic conditions, which cannot always be predicted, dictate things? Don't you work in business in some capacity? Using your logic, how many of Obama's policies have been total failures (stimulus keeping unemployment below 8%???)

"the one thing you could say he's excelled at is reality TV...lord"

he's a buffoon, no doubt. He also excels at real estate management. He's not batting 1.000, but you cannot say that he hasn't succeeded. It's not remotely enough to make him qualified to be POTUS. Neither is the amoral, compulsive liar who was a disaster as SecState.

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

More than zero. Is every one of those, his fault? Or sometimes, do macro-economic conditions, which cannot always be predicted, dictate things? Don't you work in business in some capacity? Using your logic, how many of Obama's policies have been total failures (stimulus keeping unemployment below 8%???)

Perhaps he's just a con artist...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/op...sity.html?_r=0

Trump Vodka bust, Trump airlines bust, Trump casinos 3 bankruptcies, Trump Mortgage bust, he's dissing our trade with China without noting that his clothing line was made there.

I've got to believe that he's flipped on about 3/4+ of any political positions he's taken in the last 20 years.

The only thing admirable about Trump is his manipulation of the people. It's fascinating and pretty scary.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Perhaps he's just a con artist...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/op...sity.html?_r=0

Trump Vodka bust, Trump airlines bust, Trump casinos 3 bankruptcies, Trump Mortgage bust, he's dissing our trade with China without noting that his clothing line was made there.

I've got to believe that he's flipped on about 3/4+ of any political positions he's taken in the last 20 years.

The only thing admirable about Trump is his manipulation of the people. It's fascinating and pretty scary.

Does he make money in the aggregate, or lose it? How many people work for him?

"I've got to believe that he's flipped on about 3/4+ of any political positions he's taken in the last 20 years."

Correct.