Hilary tells CNN she has never lied to the public

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

No, it shows there are multiple perspectives. If Clinton thought she was an important part of the process, and others thought so as well, that doesn't mean she's lying...

Had she made the claim and perhaps not been there at all, that would be a lie.

So in the case of the " sniper attack", she was there and she thought she was under fire , even though she was receiving flowers from a little girl, it doesn't mean she was lying .
It just means she is insane or maybe has the early stages of Alzheimer's . Either way she is not fit to be President.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

So in the case of the " sniper attack", she was there and she thought she was under fire , even though she was receiving flowers from a little girl, it doesn't mean she was lying .
It just means she is insane or maybe has the early stages of Alzheimer's . Either way she is not fit to be President.
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Thank you. Either she is lying, or she's crazy. There isn't a third option, unless she never claimed to have come under sniper attack, but rather, the vast right wing conspiracy framed her, to make it look like she said there was a sniper. The same geniuses who framed Bill to make it look like he was cheating on her, also set her up with the sniper thing.

If the GOP nominee doesn't play ads 24/7 that show her making that claim, then showing the video of what actually happened, and then showing her telling CNN this weekend that she has never lied...then we don't deserve to win. They should use that to club her like a baby seal.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by buckman

So in the case of the " sniper attack", she was there and she thought she was under fire , even though she was receiving flowers from a little girl, it doesn't mean she was lying .
It just means she is insane or maybe has the early stages of Alzheimer's . Either way she is not fit to be President.
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Bingo, Buck. Anybody with the least bit of common sense would agree.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

So in the case of the " sniper attack", she was there and she thought she was under fire , even though she was receiving flowers from a little girl, it doesn't mean she was lying .
It just means she is insane or maybe has the early stages of Alzheimer's . Either way she is not fit to be President.
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No it means she was warned before landing of the danger of sniper fire and told they'd likely have to run in and just recalled the situation poorly. Doesn't mean it was intended as deception. You just assume it's a lie because you think everything -- including items which are clearly not lies -- are still lies. That may say more about you than it does her.

I do hope you hold all candidates to the same impossible standard to which you hold Clinton.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

No it means she was warned before landing of the danger of sniper fire and told they'd likely have to run in and just recalled the situation poorly. Doesn't mean it was intended as deception. You just assume it's a lie because you think everything -- including items which are clearly not lies -- are still lies. That may say more about you than it does her.

I do hope you hold all candidates to the same impossible standard to which you hold Clinton.

"recalled the situation poorly. Doesn't mean it was intended as deception"

That's actually sad to me. I mean that.

Do you sincerely believe, that she confused a peaceful reception where she shook hands along the ropeline, all smiles...with getting shot at and having to dive into a military vehicle?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

No it means she was warned before landing of the danger of sniper fire and told they'd likely have to run in and just recalled the situation poorly. Doesn't mean it was intended as deception. You just assume it's a lie because you think everything -- including items which are clearly not lies -- are still lies. That may say more about you than it does her.

I do hope you hold all candidates to the same impossible standard to which you hold Clinton.

She's a story teller . That's what we used to call children when they were making up stories. You really have an extremely low standard for honesty .
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by buckman

She's a story teller . That's what we used to call children when they were making up stories. You really have an extremely low standard for honesty .
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I think he has more of an art for trolling
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

She's a story teller . That's what we used to call children when they were making up stories. You really have an extremely low standard for honesty .
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All good politicians are story tellers. How much stuff do you think Reagan completely fabricated? Why do you think Trump is so entertaining?

Again, you're holding Clinton to a completely different standard.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

All good politicians are story tellers. How much stuff do you think Reagan completely fabricated? Why do you think Trump is so entertaining?

Again, you're holding Clinton to a completely different standard.

Clinton denies ever story telling. EVER ....See the difference .
She is the one holding herself to a higher standard then Trump , not me .
That's why I hate politicians and I do not put them on a pedestal like you . Proof is in the pudding
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Clinton denies ever story telling.

No, she denies lying. There's a difference between misspeaking or a little sensationalism and an outright deception.

People say things that aren't true all the time, doesn't mean it's a lie.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

No, she denies lying. There's a difference between misspeaking or a little sensationalism and an outright deception.

People say things that aren't true all the time, doesn't mean it's a lie.

Repeatedly miss speaking about the same matter is lying . Sorry, that's just the way it is .
Sensationalism ??? That one made me chuckle
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

No, she denies lying. There's a difference between misspeaking or a little sensationalism and an outright deception.

People say things that aren't true all the time, doesn't mean it's a lie.

It's a character flaw . One I don't like seeing in friends , one I won't tolerate from my children , one we have in the current President ( except he outright lies , often ) and one I don't want in the next one .
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[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

People say things that aren't true all the time, doesn't mean it's a lie.

If it's not true Spence, I guess you could water it down by calling it a falsehood, but it's still not true and a lie.
How many outriggers do you have out.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

just recalled the situation poorly. Doesn't mean it was intended as deception. .

You are far too sharp to believe that. Far too sharp.