Hilary tells CNN she has never lied to the public

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

All good politicians are story tellers. How much stuff do you think Reagan completely fabricated? Why do you think Trump is so entertaining?

Again, you're holding Clinton to a completely different standard.

Clinton denies ever story telling. EVER ....See the difference .
She is the one holding herself to a higher standard then Trump , not me .
That's why I hate politicians and I do not put them on a pedestal like you . Proof is in the pudding
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Clinton denies ever story telling.

No, she denies lying. There's a difference between misspeaking or a little sensationalism and an outright deception.

People say things that aren't true all the time, doesn't mean it's a lie.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

No, she denies lying. There's a difference between misspeaking or a little sensationalism and an outright deception.

People say things that aren't true all the time, doesn't mean it's a lie.

Repeatedly miss speaking about the same matter is lying . Sorry, that's just the way it is .
Sensationalism ??? That one made me chuckle
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Repeatedly miss speaking about the same matter is lying . Sorry, that's just the way it is .
Sensationalism ??? That one made me chuckle
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I do a lot of speaking before groups and sensationalize and dramatize things all the time. It makes the message come through stronger and captures people's attention. Doesn't mean I'm dishonest.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

No, she denies lying. There's a difference between misspeaking or a little sensationalism and an outright deception.

People say things that aren't true all the time, doesn't mean it's a lie.

It's a character flaw . One I don't like seeing in friends , one I won't tolerate from my children , one we have in the current President ( except he outright lies , often ) and one I don't want in the next one .
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

It's a character flaw . One I don't like seeing in friends , one I won't tolerate from my children , one we have in the current President ( except he outright lies , often ) and one I don't want in the next one .
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Unless you're pulling for Sanders then you'll be badly disappointed. The GOP field can't seem to get any facts straight and most are running campaigns fueled by dishonesty and dirty tricks.

You're honestly going to tell me you think Trump doesn't have this "character flaw?"

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Unless you're pulling for Sanders then you'll be badly disappointed. The GOP field can't seem to get any facts straight and most are running campaigns fueled by dishonesty and dirty tricks.

You're honestly going to tell me you think Trump doesn't have this "character flaw?"

I think if it comes down to Trump and Hillary , which it looks like it will , you will see a lot of sensationalism . You're also going to see Hillary called out like never before . I almost feel bad for her going against some one with F U money and a large portion of the American people on his side .
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

I think if it comes down to Trump and Hillary , which it looks like it will , you will see a lot of sensationalism . You're also going to see Hillary called out like never before . I almost feel bad for her going against some one with F U money and a large portion of the American people on his side .
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Love it, a 25 year long industry dedicated to tearing the Clinton's down yet we've not seen anything yet. Right

I think under-appreciating her resilience and skills would be a big mistake. Trump can't respond to Hillary giving an insightful response on foreign policy, economics or domestic issues with a wedgie or wet willie during a debate.

Trump is all hat and no cattle and while many Americans are mad at the government his childish antics are really getting old.

[buckman]

[QUOTE=spence;1094333]Love it, a 25 year long industry dedicated to tearing the Clinton's down yet we've not seen anything yet. Right

I think under-appreciating her resilience and skills would be a big mistake. Trump can't respond to Hillary giving an insightful response on foreign policy, economics or domestic issues with a wedgie or wet willie during a debate.

Trump is all hat and no cattle and while many Americans are mad at the government his childish antics are really getting old.[/QUOTE

You are probably right , she is without sin . Such an honorable lady . A saint if you will .
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Love it, a 25 year long industry dedicated to tearing the Clinton's down yet we've not seen anything yet. Right

I think under-appreciating her resilience and skills would be a big mistake. Trump can't respond to Hillary giving an insightful response on foreign policy, economics or domestic issues with a wedgie or wet willie during a debate.

Trump is all hat and no cattle and while many Americans are mad at the government his childish antics are really getting old.

I don't want to "tear her down", I just want her out of public service, I thiink her policies are counterproductive. The reason she's still around, is because (like the Kennedys), the Clintons are somehow able to get people like you to put aside any critical thought, and refuse to hold them accountable for anything they do.

"Trump is all hat and no cattle "

He's a billionaire. He's got some cattle somewhere. You want to see what "all hat and no cattle" looks like, look at the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

"under-appreciating her resilience and skills would be a big mistake. Trump can't respond to Hillary giving an insightful response on foreign policy"

The hell he can't! He sure as hell can say "look what Iraq looked like when you were sworn in as Secstate, and look at what it looks like now. And if you want to talk foreign policy, let's talk about that trip where you say you came under sniper attack."

What's her response to that? Is she going to blame Bush for the invasion, even though she staunchly supported it? Why not, you won't question her when she does it.

I have very little use for Trump. One thing he will do, is beat her up when she's slinging BS. For example, when she started patting herself on the back for being a feminist, Trump immediately (and correctly) claimed that no one who enables her husband's behavior, no one who attacks the character of her husband's victims, has any business calling herself a feminist. We need someone who isn't afraid to throw an elbow when she is begging for it. Neither McCain nor Romney would do it to Obama.

In the end, if it's Trump v Hilary, she will win at least 48 states. But he will call her out when she is spouting BS.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by buckman

It's a character flaw . One I don't like seeing in friends , one I won't tolerate from my children , one we have in the current President ( except he outright lies , often ) and one I don't want in the next one .
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So I assume then that Trump and Cruz are not getting your support then?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

So I assume then that Trump and Cruz are not getting your support then?

I haven't kept up on thier lies . Fill me in .
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by buckman

I haven't kept up on thier lies . Fill me in .
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Seriously?
Muslims cheering all over the place after 9/11; thousands and thousands... he saw it, remember?
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...umps-huge-lies

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

For Cruz? Ask Ben Carson in Iowa, as Blue Cross in Texas, and a few others I can't recall from memory...

[buckman]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Seriously?
Muslims cheering all over the place after 9/11; thousands and thousands... he saw it, remember?
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...umps-huge-lies

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

For Cruz? Ask Ben Carson in Iowa, as Blue Cross in Texas, and a few others I can't recall from memory...

I remember 9/11 well , I was glued to the tv and I absolutely recall Muslim celebrations both in our country and other countries . I vividly recall the anger I felt . Don't tell me it didn't happen
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[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

People say things that aren't true all the time, doesn't mean it's a lie.

If it's not true Spence, I guess you could water it down by calling it a falsehood, but it's still not true and a lie.
How many outriggers do you have out.