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Old 06-20-2018, 12:55 PM   #1
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I would truly like to know if it's a new thing that kids are being separated form their parents as a result of immigration enforcement, or if what's new is the liberal outrage.

Here is an article from the Huffington Post, heretofore not considered to be a right-wing rag. The article says that in 2013 alone, we deported more than 72,000 parents who claim they had kids born in the US.

Most of the deported parents had been convicted of a crime, but more than 10,000 had not. 10,000 families split up in one year, where no crime was alleged other than the immigration status.

If Trump is Hitler for separating kids from parents, where was the outrage in 2013? The article says Obama was getting some pressure not to split up families, but it didn't refer to Obama as Hitler, the left didn't go berserk.

Is there a meaningful distinction between what Obama did in 2013, and what Trump is doing now? In both cases, children were separated from parents, for the sole reason that the parents weren't legally allowed to be here.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...n_5531552.html
Since Sessions admitted the current administration changed the policy as a deterrent and Trump has said that they will continue until they get the result “a wall” and is using them as a political pawn, yes there is a difference.
The article says other things about the 10K that you don’t mention
I hear some rumblings that they may walk this back soon.
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Old 06-20-2018, 01:20 PM   #2
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Since Sessions admitted the current administration changed the policy as a deterrent and Trump has said that they will continue until they get the result “a wall” and is using them as a political pawn, yes there is a difference.
The article says other things about the 10K that you don’t mention
I hear some rumblings that they may walk this back soon.
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"Since Sessions admitted the current administration changed the policy as a deterrent "

And Obama did it to families that were already here. So Obama's policy was designed to target people who were already here, Trump's policy is designed to target people trying to get in. I agree the goal is different. The result - kids being taken away from their parents - is the same, as far as I can tell. I am hearing it's wrong to take kids away from parents. Obama did that.
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