Immigration hysteria

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

"Crimes" Jim. Being in the country illegally isn't a crime. There were other criteria being used to prioritize deportations as your article describes.

One. Last. Time.

The Huff Post article said that at least 10,000 people were deported, and separated from their children, for no reason other than being here illegally. The article says they "may have fit other criteria". That's good enough for you, to separate 10,000 kids from their families?

Here is my question - why is that OK, but not what Trump is currently doing? If Trump said the adults "may fit other arrest criteria", you expect us to believe that would satisfy you?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

One. Last. Time.

The Huff Post article said that at least 10,000 people were deported, and separated from their children, for no reason other than being here illegally.

Here is my question - why is that OK, but not what Trump is currently doing?

They weren't forcibly separated from their children. Policy was to give the parents the option to take their kids or place them with family. Families at the border were charged with civil violations and sent back. It wasn't perfect but it was at least somewhat humane.

Trump is now treating all adults as criminals, forcibly removing babies and kids on the spot and shipping them to detention centers and banning media and politicians to even see what's going on with the children.

Even worse they're doing it for political reasons.

Even worse even worse the Administration lied about the protocol for the last two weeks before finally flipping and caving to pressure.

Situations are quite different Jim, that's why there's condemnation from both sides. We need bi-partisan immigration reform but you're not going to see it under Trump. It would undermine his Presidency.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

One. Last. Time.

The Huff Post article said that at least 10,000 people were deported, and separated from their children, for no reason other than being here illegally. The article says they "may have fit other criteria". That's good enough for you, to separate 10,000 kids from their families?

Here is my question - why is that OK, but not what Trump is currently doing? If Trump said the adults "may fit other arrest criteria", you expect us to believe that would satisfy you?

One used the children as pawns admittedly for political reasons, claimed they had no choice, that others were making them do it and then said: Oh we can save the children with an executive order, look what I did, hooray for me.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

One used the children as pawns admittedly for political reasons, claimed they had no choice, that others were making them do it and then said: Oh we can save the children with an executive order, look what I did, hooray for me.

I see...so it's not the act of separating families that's bad, it's the motive behind it. Naturally, according to you, Trump has a sinister motive and Obama had a humanitarian motive.

How does the motive of the sitting President, thousands of miles away, effect the trauma that the child goes through, when removed from his parents?

See, I keep hearing about how bad it is for kids to be separated from their parents - period. Unlike you, I'm not smart enough to know that being pulled from your parents, is only traumatic for a toddler, if the sitting president has sleazy motives.

Pete, just say it...just say publicly, "I can never criticize Obama, and I can never compliment Trump". we all know it.