A different take on Iraq

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Nebe

If only Bush Sr had pulled out early- 5 decades ago

Get some new material, you've only used that line a dozen times. I'm still waiting for your usual "sheeple" line.

Would you like to comment on what the soldiers are talking about in that article? Or does thier opinion not count in this Iraq debate?

Seems to me they want to finish what they started. And stay until Iraq can defend and govern itself. They know whats at stake if we pull put early.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Seems to me they want to finish what they started. And stay until Iraq can defend and govern itself. They know whats at stake if we pull put early.

There certainly is some truth to what the troops are saying, but it needs to be put in a broader strategic context.

The simple presence of US troops appears to be exacerbating tension and in many instances, pretty much causing it. Unless we can find a way to still influence security while minimizing our footprint I'm not sure we'll see much improvement.

To date the Administration has refused to even promise the Iraqi's that at some time we really will leave, no permanent bases etc...

That would be a good start.

-spence

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Get some new material, you've only used that line a dozen times. I'm still waiting for your usual "sheeple" line.

Would you like to comment on what the soldiers are talking about in that article? Or does thier opinion not count in this Iraq debate?

Seems to me they want to finish what they started. And stay until Iraq can defend and govern itself. They know whats at stake if we pull put early.

Skip: do you seriously believe that the Iraqi people wanted us to bomb the piss out of them and then fight them into a state of democracy?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

Skip: do you seriously believe that the Iraqi people wanted us to bomb the piss out of them and then fight them into a state of democracy?

I think had we had a real coalition, a plan for stability and treated the Iraqi's with respect we may have been able to pull this off.

Instead we have certainly succedded in validating most anti-US stereotypes used to incite the moderates into supporting terrorisim.

This works against our troops in so many ways. Our men and women mean well, and they're working their asses off, but they are being given a nearly impossible task...because of arrogance and incompetence.

-spence