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11-06-2006, 04:47 PM
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I'll take that as an aknowledgement of agreement.
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You would be taking my comment the wrong way then. I think that's an absurd notion. Where did you get it?
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11-06-2006, 04:54 PM
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You would be taking my comment the wrong way then. I think that's an absurd notion. Where did you get it?
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From a couple of the few wingnuts I consider friends. In their skewed view of the world Bushs Approval Ratings are validation to them that Americans in general share their beliefs. I think that explains their shock and outrage when their candidate never wins. Dont forget we are not talking about the sharpest tools in the shed here.
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11-06-2006, 04:59 PM
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I just don't like W and know that he's done an AWFUL job... where'd all this conspiracy jibber jabber (sorry for the Mr. T reference I couldn't help it  ) come from 
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11-06-2006, 05:01 PM
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I just don't like W and know that he's done an AWFUL job... where'd all this conspiracy jibber jabber (sorry for the Mr. T reference I couldn't help it  ) come from 
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The George Soros cult.
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11-07-2006, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by stripersnipr
From a couple of the few wingnuts I consider friends. In their skewed view of the world Bushs Approval Ratings are validation to them that Americans in general share their beliefs. I think that explains their shock and outrage when their candidate never wins. Dont forget we are not talking about the sharpest tools in the shed here.
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This is an extremely valid point made by Striprsniper. I honestly do think that radical liberals see those plummeting approval ratings for GW to mean the country must be "coming around" to their line of thinking. IMO the truth couldn't be further from the point.
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The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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11-07-2006, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bronko
This is an extremely valid point made by Striprsniper. I honestly do think that radical liberals see those plummeting approval ratings for GW to mean the country must be "coming around" to their line of thinking. IMO the truth couldn't be further from the point.
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Interesting....what do you and S sniper think the average American thinks about George Bush (in a abbreviated statement).
Or more concisely what is the truth, as you perceive it, regarding your last sentence above?
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11-07-2006, 09:14 AM
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Interesting....what do you and S sniper think the average American thinks about George Bush (in a abbreviated statement).
Or more concisely what is the truth, as you perceive it, regarding your last sentence above?
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Thats easy. The lesser of two evils.
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11-07-2006, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bronko
I honestly do think that radical liberals see those plummeting approval ratings for GW to mean the country must be "coming around" to their line of thinking. IMO the truth couldn't be further from the point.
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So what do you even care about a few "radical liberals" anyway? We're talking about a few percent of the population. It's not that influential of a group.
-spence
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11-07-2006, 10:30 AM
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So what do you even care about a few "radical liberals" anyway? We're talking about a few percent of the population. It's not that influential of a group.
-spence
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It only takes a few. (please see "radical islam fundamentalists")
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The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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11-07-2006, 10:45 AM
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It only takes a few. (please see "radical islam fundamentalists")
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Radical Islam would have little voice were it not for the real angst that it's leaders tap into.
Same goes for any movement.
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11-07-2006, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by stripersnipr
From a couple of the few wingnuts I consider friends. In their skewed view of the world Bushs Approval Ratings are validation to them that Americans in general share their beliefs. I think that explains their shock and outrage when their candidate never wins. Dont forget we are not talking about the sharpest tools in the shed here.
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Yes, your 2 friends represent the liberal faction in the USA
What's the margin of error on your poll, +/- 98%
I've never seen this point made by liberal thinkers on a broad scale. On individual issues there's some truth. When 50+% of the American people think they were misled into Iraq, it certainly does validate that line of thinking does it not?
As an aside, if it wern't for Bill O'Riley and Sean "jackass: Hannity, the vast majority of Americans wouldn't have a clue as to who George Soros even is, nor would they care.
-spence
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11-07-2006, 09:12 AM
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As an aside, if it wern't for Bill O'Riley and Sean "jackass: Hannity, the vast majority of Americans wouldn't have a clue as to who George Soros even is, nor would they care.
-spence
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Wouldn't that be convienent.
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11-07-2006, 10:18 AM
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As an aside, if it wern't for Bill O'Riley and Sean "jackass: Hannity, the vast majority of Americans wouldn't have a clue as to who George Soros even is, nor would they care.
-spence
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This is why the alternative media is thriving, because America now see's what people like Soros stand for, and how he plays a huge part in the Democratic party.
Without guys like Hannityy and Rush, people only see one side of the story. This is why the left cant stand the alternaive media, because they expose them for who they are and what they truly stand for.
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11-07-2006, 10:29 AM
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Without guys like Hannityy and Rush, people only see one side of the story. This is why the left cant stand the alternaive media, because they expose them for who they are and what they truly stand for.
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I Know, Thank God Rush exposed Micheal J Fox for the Threat to America that he really is. Damn Faker......to think I felt sorry for him all these years when he really was just playing me all along. 
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11-07-2006, 11:06 AM
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I Know, Thank God Rush exposed Micheal J Fox for the Threat to America that he really is. Damn Faker......to think I felt sorry for him all these years when he really was just playing me all along. 
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Fox admitted that he was off his meds went he appeared in front of congress a while back. He did it so the effects of his disease would show even more than usual. Yet Rush isnt aloud to raise that question? That maybe he was trying to do the same thing yet again? Rush, like all Americans, has sympathy for Fox and his condition. Rush raised a simple question that maybe he was pulling the same stuff he pulled in front of congress, to make the effects of his condition appear worse, so he could gain more sympathy. We all feel for Fox, but why arent we aloud to raise this question??
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11-07-2006, 11:08 AM
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Doublethink
Doublethink is a kind of manipulation of the mind. Generally, one could say that Doublethink makes people accept contradictions, and it makes them also believe that the party is the only institution that distinguishes between right and wrong. This manipulation is mainly done by the Minitrue (Ministry of Truth), where Winston Smith works. When a person that is well grounded in Doublethink recognizes a contradiction or a lie by the Party, then the person thinks that he is remembering a false fact. The use of the word Doublethink involves doublethink. With the help of the Minitrue, it is not only possible to change written facts, but also facts that are remembered by people. So complete control of the country and its citizens is provided. The fact of faking history had already been used by the Nazis, who told the people that already German Knights believed in the principles of National Socialism
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11-07-2006, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Skip N
Fox admitted that he was off his meds went he appeared in front of congress a while back. He did it so the effects of his disease would show even more than usual. Yet Rush isnt aloud to raise that question? That maybe he was trying to do the same thing yet again?
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It's my understanding that Parkenson's brings paralasis, and the medication tends to remove this. The point being that what you're saying is 180 degrees from reality.
Instead of listing to Limbaugh for analysis, you should listen to a medical professional.
-spence
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11-07-2006, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Skip N
We all feel for Fox, but why arent we aloud to raise this question??
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Raising the question is one thing.....flapping your arms around in a mock seizure making fun of the guy is another. The guy has zero class
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11-07-2006, 10:33 AM
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This is why the left cant stand the alternaive media, because they expose them for who they are and what they truly stand for.
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By the Way, Great Play on words there
Definition of Naive from Websters
a:deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment;
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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11-07-2006, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Skip N
Without guys like Hannityy and Rush, people only see one side of the story. This is why the left cant stand the alternaive media, because they expose them for who they are and what they truly stand for.
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Skippy, Rush and Hannity provide "entertainment" only. It's not real news, nor even real opinion.
It's a "product" that they sell.
-spence
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11-07-2006, 12:53 PM
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Skippy, Rush and Hannity provide "entertainment" only. It's not real news, nor even real opinion.
It's a "product" that they sell.
-spence
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They give a voice and speak for tens of millions of Amercians who dont have a voice anywhere else. A voice we rarely hear in the mainstream media.
And they challenge the liberal media, wich until recently, was rarely challenged. We just accepted what was in our papers and on the news as the gospel. But not anymore!
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11-07-2006, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip N
They give a voice and speak for tens of millions of Amercians who dont have a voice anywhere else. A voice we rarely hear in the mainstream media.
And they challenge the liberal media, wich until recently, was rarely challenged. We just accepted what was in our papers and on the news as the gospel. But not anymore!
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What is this stuck on mainstream thing.....if its out there its mainstream.....and speaking for tens of millions? To incite and inflame is not representative.... its like Pro Wrestling....comic book fantasy which tickles our Ids.
Puuhhllleeeeezzzeeeeeee 
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11-07-2006, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Skippy, Rush and Hannity provide "entertainment" only. It's not real news, nor even real opinion.
It's a "product" that they sell.
-spence
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Yeah if you want real Facts watch a Michael Moore "Documentary" or Listen to Air America.............oh wait thats right.........America rejected Air America for what it is and what it stands for.
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11-07-2006, 04:05 PM
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Yeah if you want real Facts watch a Michael Moore "Documentary" or Listen to Air America.............oh wait thats right.........America rejected Air America for what it is and what it stands for.
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Michael Moore's a slimeball, never saw the movie but given his past work I'd consider it on par with the product that Limbaugh produces.
Air America failed not because people rejected their idiology as much, but rather they had poor coverage and their shows for the most part sucked. You can hate Limbaugh but he's a master at what he does, and Hannity rides his coat tails.
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