Fall Run, Late October & A Full Moon - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

eelman · 10-24-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bart

if you still fished the surf you wouldn't be so inclined to hand out info. if i recall correctly the last time you got into fish at one of said spots in Nov. you took pics, posted them online thinking no one would recognize the spot, then got all pissy when 10 trucks were in the lot before you got there. so don't say you want people to be successful....

and you obviously don't have any sympathy for the guys that regularly fish those spots. i'm sure they want a whole new group of guys heading out there? if you still fished in your old haunts and someone said spot X cleans up after an easterly blow and to concentrate their efforts there for the next 2 weeks, you wouldn't be too happy.....

well, bart, that was then and that was 3 years ago or was it 2? whatever but what you state here is your opinion and we all know what opinions are like.........I will say what I want, when I want, and to whom I want, noboby owns anything, and most of those spots I fished before most of the people here were out of high school..So thats that..america, its a free country...People died for that...public spots are public spots...it is what it is...And I dont really care what anyone thinks at all......

I do still fish the surf only from my boat.........................

No go put the time in and fish those spots!

Back Beach · 10-24-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

No go put the time in and fish those spots!

With eels.

bart · 10-24-2007, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

well, bart, that was then and that was 3 years ago or was it 2? whatever but what you state here is your opinion and we all know what opinions are like.........I will say what I want, when I want, and to whom I want, noboby owns anything, and most of those spots I fished before most of the people here were out of high school..So thats that..america, its a free country...People died for that...public spots are public spots...it is what it is...And I dont really care what anyone thinks at all......

I do still fish the surf only from my boat.........................

whatever. you can preach all that crap you want. fact is, if you were still IN the surf, fishing those same spots, you wouldn't be broadcasting prime tides and conditions over the internet, especially when it gets down to crunch time. and no doubt about it you'd be pissed if you were invaded by a bunch of spot-chasers....

luds · 10-24-2007, 11:10 AM

luds · 10-24-2007, 11:13 AM

riverrat2 · 10-24-2007, 11:19 AM

how do you catch fish without hooks?

Back Beach · 10-24-2007, 11:23 AM

Nice kindling Luds...

luds · 10-24-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Back Beach

Nice kindling Luds...

luds · 10-24-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by riverrat2

how do you catch fish without hooks?

you can't or as far as I know . those are reserves

SAXATILUS · 10-24-2007, 11:25 AM

Come on now, give me a break. #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& did not burn anything. It seems whenever he posts someone always has to get thier panties in a bunch. I think for the most part, some of you dudes are just jealous of his accomplishments. Lets face it the guy certainly knows his s#*t and I for one would love to hear what he has to say more often. No wonder we dont here from him that much, someones always getting in his face. Pathetic.

Rockport24 · 10-24-2007, 11:27 AM

Luds, you have a problem

luds · 10-24-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockport24

Luds, you have a problem

I know....I need to fine an eelskin that will fit over a cowboy.

Rockport24 · 10-24-2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by luds48

I know....I need to fine an eelskin that will fit over a cowboy.

surfland has some monster eels, they should just skin em' and sell em'

DZ · 10-24-2007, 12:42 PM

This post is not directed at anyone in particular. It is meant to show the impact of the new “information age” we now live in. While information about location can be a good thing – too much or too specific can be detrimental to our surfcasting past time.

My take on “Spot talk”: When I started to become interested (read: addicted) to surf fishing for striped bass everything was a mystery and the most mysterious of all was where to catch them. “Spots” were uncovered by those who sought them out through trial and error. Every once in a while someone would actually invite me to a new location but that was a rare event. Most often you would hear of a locations name under hushed voices – then you’d start to put “two and two” together and go there. Maybe recognize a vehicle or actually see someone casting the spot or dragging a fish out. There was an anticipation and excitement of uncovering something new. What I’m trying to say is “spots” were “earned” through detective work. Those that were hardcore enough would eventually figure them out - those that were not quit fishing. It was a way of “weeding” those in the surfcasting fraternity.

I’ve told many fishermen over the years about certain locations but almost always with a “one on one” conversation. By doing this I generally get some info back that I could use, sort of “quid pro quo” so to speak. And I’m not afraid to tell you I’ve been burned a few times over the years by telling a wrong person – live and learn. I’ve also been told of locations by others in confidence and would never betray that confidence. Broadcasting a “secret” spot to a large group was always considered a no-no to those in the surfcasting fraternity, and I’m not talking about high profile locations here. Many of you know that I’ve given presentations about an island I like to spend time on – I give general info about what to fish. But after the presentation guys want to know where “flat rock” is on slide 31. My answer is “I gave you a hint now go out and find it.” Finding a spot is on your own is one of the most gratifying things about surfcasting.

With the internet many surfcasters miss out on the excitement and anticipation of the quest. A slip of the typing finger and unwanted casters will be casting your rock in no time. I know that for a fact because I’ve gathered very good intell through web sites and if I can do it so can others.

Spot talk no-no’s in my book: Many times I see spots burned because the burner doesn’t fish there anymore. Don’t post (or write) about a spot that you don’t fish - because if you do it’s not YOU that has to deal with the consequences. I’ve seen this happen quite often in the last few years. A location in nearby Mass used to be a location with a very low profile that only a handful knew about. If I met two guys there it was a crowd. Now forget it – not worth the drive if you like to fish alone.

It’s not that spots are burned as much as a part of the unwritten rules of the surfcasting game have been compromised. Thing’s that would never be done are now routine – and that’s sad. It’s kind of like looking at the answers on the back page without trying to figure it out the problem.

DZ

fishpoopoo · 10-24-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SAXATILUS

Come on now, give me a break. #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& did not burn anything...

well, to be fair, he did mention one area that is somewhat difficult to access without going through private property.

at least edit that one out, lest a bunch of folk crowd the place and cause the locals to start towing angler's cars.

i'm not jumping on #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, i enjoy his posts, i'm just trying to watch out for us all.

eelman · 10-24-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fishpoopoo

well, to be fair, he did mention one area that is somewhat difficult to access without going through private property.

at least edit that one out, lest a bunch of folk crowd the place and cause the locals to start towing angler's cars.

i'm not jumping on #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, i enjoy his posts, i'm just trying to watch out for us all.

uhhhhhh Where have you been, that place has been overun for years???????????????

fishpoopoo · 10-24-2007, 01:50 PM

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uhhhhhh Where have you been, that place has been overun for years???????????????

may be true, but it would be terrible if the locals got fed up and hired a tow-truck operator if one parked there. why tempt fate?

ilovetwofish · 10-24-2007, 07:10 PM

I second that. IM 35 and love to fish the hard to get at spots. I spend alot of time fishing different spots sometimes I do allright most times I dont do so well any extra help from the very expeirenced anglers I think is great. No 1 person or group of people own the water.

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Originally Posted by SAXATILUS

Come on now, give me a break. #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& did not burn anything. It seems whenever he posts someone always has to get thier panties in a bunch. I think for the most part, some of you dudes are just jealous of his accomplishments. Lets face it the guy certainly knows his s#*t and I for one would love to hear what he has to say more often. No wonder we dont here from him that much, someones always getting in his face. Pathetic.