Anti-American/Unpatriotic

[Raven]

talk about waking a sleeping Giant...

nice goin BTW


i just wanted to interject a comment about adopting our traditions

not all of them are so well accepted in other cultures that they are to be so readily
adopted by a new American.

thats it,
Carry on....

[OnTheLedge]

Originally Posted by Raven

talk about waking a sleeping Giant...

nice goin BTW

Ha ha...sleeping yes....giant no. I hope your dog's feeling better, Raven.

[scottw]

sounds like a lot of guys are wearing their Che Guevara tees today

Dad, I felt that I answered your question, you wanted to know if I felt that a military member holding marxist views and I said yes, after a lifetime spent in a military town and still surround by neighbors and friends, family both former and current military I can tell you that the next military member that I meet will a marxist belief system will be the first
The comment about the party and financial backers forcing Marxism on us was based on two candidates promising huge expansions of government and backers like George Soros who are happily admited enemies of the capitalist system and himself an unabashed Marxist, read one of his books ...

the Democrat candidates have left little doubt that they intend to bring about "change" in the form of a huge central government, their words, not mine....

if we are to descend into a nation of wholesale government dependence ...I consider that very un-American...but hey, that's a Marxist's dream...forgive me for my critical thinking...and once again, Happy May Day

[The Dad Fisherman]

See, I don't feel you answered the question I asked....you answered the spin you put on the Question I asked.

Originally Posted by scottw

Dad, I felt that I answered your question, you wanted to know if I felt that a military member holding marxist views and I said yes,

This was the question I asked....and all it needs is a one word answer Yes OR No.....you know Black OR White

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

So what you're saying is that you don't support any of the troops in Iraq or Afghanistan if they are registered Democrats, because they are supporting a Marxist Ideaology and therefore are Unpatriotic and Anti- American.

[OnTheLedge]

Originally Posted by scottw

sounds like a lot of guys are wearing their Che Guevara tees today
....The comment about the party and financial backers forcing Marxism on us was based on two candidates promising huge expansions of government and backers like George Soros who are happily admited enemies of the capitalist system and himself an unabashed Marxist, read one of his books ...

I don't know mujhviuefi....oops my Che Guevara beret fell onto the keyboard. I don't know much about George Soros, so I did a Wikipedia search (Not a definitive source, but it's a start).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

No mention of communism, socialism or Marxism. It does say that he supported the Solidarity movement in Poland, which defeated the socialist government there. It also says he made his fortune trading in capital markets, stocks etc. He hardly sounds like one of the "happily admited enemies of the capitalist system and himself an unabashed Marxist," Again...you're long on labels and short on facts.

[scottw]

Robert, I did the same thing a long time ago, big philanthropist right? just check out one of his books and the organizations that he funds and his convictions

posted previously:
hey Spence, just so we're straight, I love talking politics because it one of the very few things that get people worked into a lather over things that they can do absolutely nothing about, my best customers are big libs and I have a ball making their eyes turn red because they really know, deep down that they are wrong...the leftys have very little sense of humor and an even shorter fuse...probably a result of knowing that they are way overmatched intellectually which is why they target the lowest common denominator....so please never get upset over things that I say, you'd like me, you really would...I'm really a fun guy and I hope that you can get out and find some fish this weekend, Scott



I'll consider this a raging success

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

hey Spence, just so we're straight, I love talking politics because it one of the very few things that get people worked into a lather over things that they can do absolutely nothing about, my best customers are big libs and I have a ball making their eyes turn red because they really know, deep down that they are wrong...the leftys have very little sense of humor and an even shorter fuse...probably a result of knowing that they are way overmatched intellectually which is why they target the lowest common denominator....so please never get upset over things that I say, you'd like me, you really would...I'm really a fun guy and I hope that you can get out and find some fish this weekend, Scott

Sorry, I've been out working to keep that GDP up.

The notion that you get excited making your customers squirm seems like a very odd comment to make.

I don't think you ever answered my question by the way.

-spence

[OnTheLedge]

Originally Posted by scottw

... my best customers are big libs and I have a ball making their eyes turn red because they really know, deep down that they are wrong...the leftys have very little sense of humor and an even shorter fuse...probably a result of knowing that they are way overmatched intellectually... :

I do so have a sense of humor....This made me laugh!

[spence]

Originally Posted by Robert

I do so have a sense of humor....This made me laugh!

Yea, have you noticed how the very same people who insist Liberals are elitist snobs are so quick to regard Liberals as stupid?

Like, I thought the Liberals ran all the universities? I could go ask the folks at Bob Jones University as it's not far from where I am today, although as I'm wearing a pink shirt I probably should avoid that part of town.

-spence

[scottw]

feelin' the love now! Dad, not avoiding you, you just seem determined to have me tell you that any servivce member that's registered democrat is unpatriotic and that's not what I've suggested, this is about ideaology, not affiliation, some of you only pick out the parts that you want, then attack with , McCain is going to enjoy huge support from dems that realize that their party is swung so far to the left that they hardly recognize it, there are 20% of the voters for hill and o that claim they'll vote for him if their guy gets the boot and then there's the the freakshow that will be the Democratic Convention

I really don' know how to respond to all of this fan mail except to say this...it's real simple

one party stands for, is currently guided by Marxist principles of massive dependence on government, they've never made it as clear as they do now, I believe that this is in direct opposition with the prnciples that this country was founded on and that it is UN-AMERICAN...even prior to the slow down of the economy local, state and the federal government are struggling to deal with obligations, both current and unfunded future obligations, I believe the estimate for unfunded federal obligations over the next 25 years is 54trillion, think about that, if you are a Marxist your solution is to soil and trash American industry, corprations and current systems in place to the degree that you create enough outrage, real or whipped up to gain approval for more and bigger government solutions... sound familiar??? election of either of these two democrat candidates will result in massive expansion of government in the lives of every American whether that means providing you services whether you like it or not or taking more of the money that you work to earn in order to pay for their bloated socialits dream.."YEAH, BUT SCOTT...BUSH LIED PEOPLE DIED, PATRIOT ACT TOOK AWAY MY FREEDOM"....shut the f#%$ up...name one liberty or freedom that any one of you has actually lost under the partiot act....

didn't think so..
still waiting for anyone to name one or two of histories great Marxists and their benevolent contributions to our world

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Robert

I do so have a sense of humor....This made me laugh!

I'm glad ya liked it Robert, it was meant to be funny, Spence is my buddy...pointless to have these discussions then be angry since none of us have any actual ability to do much about it, my customers and I will yell at each other regarding politics and then they'll cut me a check and give me a hug, you realize that the pundints and pols that scream at each other on tv are clinking beer bottles back stage afterward....then it's very interesting to me to see how folks feel, so much can shape a world view, I really believe that if folks can get together like this with clearly differing views and let it all out without actually slugging it out it can be very productive, I've learned a lot just in this small exchange but I really hope we're not cutting into anyone's fishing...PEACE

[OnTheLedge]

Originally Posted by scottw

I'm glad ya liked it Robert, it was meant to be funny, Spence is my buddy...pointless to have these discussions then be angry ......I've learned a lot just in this small exchange but I really hope we're not cutting into anyone's fishing...PEACE

I enjoyed it too.....but I'm done. I'm going back to my lurkdom.