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11-09-2008, 06:14 PM
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Salt of the Earth
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Suburbia, RI
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I don't know if our guy will be there for sure...the crmc has washed there hands on the night time access here, hopefully the DEM will take a stand at the boat ramp.
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11-12-2008, 08:45 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Because this would be a change for the worse...
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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11-12-2008, 09:16 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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This will be a lousy precedent if it passes
We've got a couple of issues on the Island here - one of which I may get started on soon - it's starting to get me PO'd and anyone can tell ya it's not smart to pi$$ off a Portagee even if he's only a half-breed
Fisherman's rights to the shore in the RI constitution go back to the King Charles Charter of 1661 and there's no question about it's stand on the issue.
If I had to guess I'd say CRMC was told to lay off given the location and the neighborhood and threats of litigation - somebody's gotta pay for the lawyers unless you get one to do it pro bono - for free - and the State doesn't have the money to pay for 'em right now.
Is Bob Moeller still chairman of that RISAA access committee?
Last edited by Crafty Angler; 11-12-2008 at 09:22 AM..
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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11-12-2008, 10:18 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crafty Angler
This will be a lousy precedent if it passes
We've got a couple of issues on the Island here - one of which I may get started on soon - it's starting to get me PO'd and anyone can tell ya it's not smart to pi$$ off a Portagee even if he's only a half-breed
Fisherman's rights to the shore in the RI constitution go back to the King Charles Charter of 1661 and there's no question about it's stand on the issue.
If I had to guess I'd say CRMC was told to lay off given the location and the neighborhood and threats of litigation - somebody's gotta pay for the lawyers unless you get one to do it pro bono - for free - and the State doesn't have the money to pay for 'em right now.
Is Bob Moeller still chairman of that RISAA access committee?
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I might be wrong but I think CRMS thinks that their job - ie the access, is not in doubt but it's the town's call on access to the acces - cheap, but I think that is why they are laughing their tail off sitting on sidelines
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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11-12-2008, 07:41 PM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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Hmmm...let me try to unravel this
So is it just the town trying to eliminate parking to shut the place down - a la Middletown with the Clambake Club. That still makes it a de facto closure -
I dunno, somebody help the dizzy old bastard out here
I'm not that familiar with the most recent particulars, I guess...
You know, if you had a pro bono guy to do the lawyering, I think a lawsuit against the Town of Bore-ington would be in order if it hasn't already been done.
God, the idiots in that town are unbearably bourgeois - classic old-line Republican types. Guess they just don't want to allow seemy fishing people there - unless, of course, they're using a long wand.
I'm telling ya, biggest group of pretentious hypocrites I've ever known in my dealings with them - completely dry town, more clinical closet alcoholics than any other place in the state 
Last edited by Crafty Angler; 11-12-2008 at 07:51 PM..
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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11-13-2008, 06:09 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crafty Angler
Fisherman's rights to the shore in the RI constitution go back to the King Charles Charter of 1661 and there's no question about it's stand on the issue.
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sounds like a printing of that charter and posting of it at
all r.o.w.'s would be in order. 
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11-13-2008, 08:03 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Chuckles, yes, you are correct. But the yahooooos will say that constitutional access to the right of way in 18whatever didn't include pahking spots for the old buggy, horse drawn. 
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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11-13-2008, 08:11 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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No, I agree with you on that point, Cap - I know what their argument is, it was tried on Tuckerman Avenue in Middletown to shut down fishing at the Clambake Club at the end of Easton's Point and failed. And believe me, the members at the CC have the where-with-all to buy and sell those idiots in Bore-ington by the gross ten times a day
It really is a de facto closure and a violation of Fisherman's Rights - don't know if Bob Moeller is still the RISAA point man, but RISAA was involved in the Clambake Club issue and I would think it's a precedent.
Hey, what do I know - I'm not a lawyer, I just send checks to mine on a semi-regular basis
I can't imagine RISAA not having a lawyer there and actively involved.
Last edited by Crafty Angler; 11-13-2008 at 08:22 AM..
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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11-13-2008, 08:15 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
sounds like a printing of that charter and posting of it at
all r.o.w.'s would be in order. 
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Ya know, Raven, I think that's a capital idea -
Then at least the yayhoos would know what the basis in law is for the rights of humble fishermen since pre-Revolutionary times - regardless of how much they spent to buy the waterfront.
I would think that oughta put their D.A.R. panties in a knot 
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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11-16-2008, 08:39 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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i have a million of them
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crafty Angler
Ya know, Raven, I think that's a capital idea - 
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I don't even get to go fishing .... Crafty. (this YEAR)
so i think completely differently (out of the box) than most of you guys...
i haven't fished a day this year..." because of disasters"
and i consider it the very worst year of my entire life.
but,,,, (not complaining) i'm just trying to survive this.
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I think that a huge protest is in order....and since gas is allot cheaper...
(in my minds eye)
it would be SO grand to have everyone that can........
drive their boats around behind their vehicles with well made protest signs
in them made of white painted 4 x 8 plywood like a funeral procession ...

that would bring NATIONAL attention to this right of way & access dilemma
 right on CNN
afterwards, we can have a tail gate party & BBQ
imagine those old charters blown up that huge
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11-16-2008, 09:29 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
Posts: 8,642
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malfeasant- now that's a $22 word. will have to use it, just hope they knoe what it means...Misconduct or wrongdoing, especially by a public official. good one.
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