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11-13-2008, 06:09 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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Originally Posted by Crafty Angler
Fisherman's rights to the shore in the RI constitution go back to the King Charles Charter of 1661 and there's no question about it's stand on the issue.
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sounds like a printing of that charter and posting of it at
all r.o.w.'s would be in order. 
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11-13-2008, 08:03 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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Chuckles, yes, you are correct. But the yahooooos will say that constitutional access to the right of way in 18whatever didn't include pahking spots for the old buggy, horse drawn. 
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11-13-2008, 08:11 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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No, I agree with you on that point, Cap - I know what their argument is, it was tried on Tuckerman Avenue in Middletown to shut down fishing at the Clambake Club at the end of Easton's Point and failed. And believe me, the members at the CC have the where-with-all to buy and sell those idiots in Bore-ington by the gross ten times a day
It really is a de facto closure and a violation of Fisherman's Rights - don't know if Bob Moeller is still the RISAA point man, but RISAA was involved in the Clambake Club issue and I would think it's a precedent.
Hey, what do I know - I'm not a lawyer, I just send checks to mine on a semi-regular basis
I can't imagine RISAA not having a lawyer there and actively involved.
Last edited by Crafty Angler; 11-13-2008 at 08:22 AM..
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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11-13-2008, 08:15 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
sounds like a printing of that charter and posting of it at
all r.o.w.'s would be in order. 
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Ya know, Raven, I think that's a capital idea -
Then at least the yayhoos would know what the basis in law is for the rights of humble fishermen since pre-Revolutionary times - regardless of how much they spent to buy the waterfront.
I would think that oughta put their D.A.R. panties in a knot 
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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11-16-2008, 08:39 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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i have a million of them
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Originally Posted by Crafty Angler
Ya know, Raven, I think that's a capital idea - 
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I don't even get to go fishing .... Crafty. (this YEAR)
so i think completely differently (out of the box) than most of you guys...
i haven't fished a day this year..." because of disasters"
and i consider it the very worst year of my entire life.
but,,,, (not complaining) i'm just trying to survive this.
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I think that a huge protest is in order....and since gas is allot cheaper...
(in my minds eye)
it would be SO grand to have everyone that can........
drive their boats around behind their vehicles with well made protest signs
in them made of white painted 4 x 8 plywood like a funeral procession ...

that would bring NATIONAL attention to this right of way & access dilemma
 right on CNN
afterwards, we can have a tail gate party & BBQ
imagine those old charters blown up that huge
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11-16-2008, 09:29 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
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malfeasant- now that's a $22 word. will have to use it, just hope they knoe what it means...Misconduct or wrongdoing, especially by a public official. good one.
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11-16-2008, 09:49 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
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Guys, this is huge
This means a lot for access, now expanded to two places.
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
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11-17-2008, 10:57 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 842
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daunis/barrington is is difficult situation w/ a lot of history. there's too much to summarize here. no matter the decision, each RI ST ROW needs to be treated differently and can't be balled up into one ruling that all others will fall in line with. everyeone agrees with the RI Charter on shoreline access and that is always one of the first things out of someone's mouth on these types of issues.
ultimately, daunis is a state ROW, but the parking in question is on town land. that is the issue. that state does not have input there. so, the decision to be made this week will be on the town and its residents. if you are a member of the town, you NEED to show up. RISAA will be there and yes Bob is still chair of the Access Committee, as am i. dave (young salt) is more familiar with this ROW than i am as far as the details. i would be very surprised if you see someone from CRMC show up.
it's easy to post on a public forum your opinion of the who, what, where, why, etc., but it holds absolutely no weight here. you NEED to be on public record in a town meeting and voice your opinion there. i'm always amazed by the amount of press a ROW will get on a forum, but the lack of support when it is before a town meeting. if you are part of a local fishing club, such as one near this ROW, it should have been in your club's business recently. if it was not, why don't you take the initiative? we ALL need to network on all issues such as these so nothing sneaks thru the cracks. internet forums are nice, but club/organizational representation holds more weight.
back to daunis. you have a very close decision right now. this may come down to a single vote carrying the decision either way. that vote, and maybe others, may come down to how many show up and speak on behalf of either side of this decision. whether it's "right or wrong" may not matter as the representation may be the single carrying vote. we can only hope more people show up (fisherman, surfers, residents, etc.) in favor of keeping the parking.
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11-17-2008, 11:14 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,574
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Good points Seawolf. One thing - I was told that the parking spots in this case are in fact established ON the right of way - not on the town street. This could be incorrect. Either way, CRMC owes it citizens representation.
DZ
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DZ
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