Shore and boat access threatened in barrington

[Crafty Angler]

This will be a lousy precedent if it passes

We've got a couple of issues on the Island here - one of which I may get started on soon - it's starting to get me PO'd and anyone can tell ya it's not smart to pi$$ off a Portagee even if he's only a half-breed

Fisherman's rights to the shore in the RI constitution go back to the King Charles Charter of 1661 and there's no question about it's stand on the issue.

If I had to guess I'd say CRMC was told to lay off given the location and the neighborhood and threats of litigation - somebody's gotta pay for the lawyers unless you get one to do it pro bono - for free - and the State doesn't have the money to pay for 'em right now.

Is Bob Moeller still chairman of that RISAA access committee?

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Crafty Angler

This will be a lousy precedent if it passes

We've got a couple of issues on the Island here - one of which I may get started on soon - it's starting to get me PO'd and anyone can tell ya it's not smart to pi$$ off a Portagee even if he's only a half-breed

Fisherman's rights to the shore in the RI constitution go back to the King Charles Charter of 1661 and there's no question about it's stand on the issue.

If I had to guess I'd say CRMC was told to lay off given the location and the neighborhood and threats of litigation - somebody's gotta pay for the lawyers unless you get one to do it pro bono - for free - and the State doesn't have the money to pay for 'em right now.

Is Bob Moeller still chairman of that RISAA access committee?

I might be wrong but I think CRMS thinks that their job - ie the access, is not in doubt but it's the town's call on access to the acces - cheap, but I think that is why they are laughing their tail off sitting on sidelines

[Crafty Angler]

Hmmm...let me try to unravel this

So is it just the town trying to eliminate parking to shut the place down - a la Middletown with the Clambake Club. That still makes it a de facto closure -

I dunno, somebody help the dizzy old bastard out here

I'm not that familiar with the most recent particulars, I guess...

You know, if you had a pro bono guy to do the lawyering, I think a lawsuit against the Town of Bore-ington would be in order if it hasn't already been done.

God, the idiots in that town are unbearably bourgeois - classic old-line Republican types. Guess they just don't want to allow seemy fishing people there - unless, of course, they're using a long wand.

I'm telling ya, biggest group of pretentious hypocrites I've ever known in my dealings with them - completely dry town, more clinical closet alcoholics than any other place in the state

[Raven]

Originally Posted by Crafty Angler

Fisherman's rights to the shore in the RI constitution go back to the King Charles Charter of 1661 and there's no question about it's stand on the issue.

sounds like a printing of that charter and posting of it at
all r.o.w.'s would be in order.

[JohnR]

Chuckles, yes, you are correct. But the yahooooos will say that constitutional access to the right of way in 18whatever didn't include pahking spots for the old buggy, horse drawn.

[Crafty Angler]

No, I agree with you on that point, Cap - I know what their argument is, it was tried on Tuckerman Avenue in Middletown to shut down fishing at the Clambake Club at the end of Easton's Point and failed. And believe me, the members at the CC have the where-with-all to buy and sell those idiots in Bore-ington by the gross ten times a day

It really is a de facto closure and a violation of Fisherman's Rights - don't know if Bob Moeller is still the RISAA point man, but RISAA was involved in the Clambake Club issue and I would think it's a precedent.

Hey, what do I know - I'm not a lawyer, I just send checks to mine on a semi-regular basis

I can't imagine RISAA not having a lawyer there and actively involved.

[Crafty Angler]

Originally Posted by Raven

sounds like a printing of that charter and posting of it at
all r.o.w.'s would be in order.

Ya know, Raven, I think that's a capital idea -

Then at least the yayhoos would know what the basis in law is for the rights of humble fishermen since pre-Revolutionary times - regardless of how much they spent to buy the waterfront.

I would think that oughta put their D.A.R. panties in a knot

[Raven]

Originally Posted by Crafty Angler

Ya know, Raven, I think that's a capital idea -

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I don't even get to go fishing .... Crafty. (this YEAR)
so i think completely differently (out of the box) than most of you guys...
i haven't fished a day this year..."because of disasters"
and i consider it the very worst year of my entire life.
but,,,, (not complaining) i'm just trying to survive this.
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I think that a huge protest is in order....and since gas is allot cheaper...

(in my minds eye)

it would be SO grand to have everyone that can........
drive their boats around behind their vehicles with well made protest signs
in them made of white painted 4 x 8 plywood like a funeral procession ...


that would bring NATIONAL attention to this right of way & access dilemma
right on CNN

afterwards, we can have a tail gate party & BBQ

imagine those old charters blown up that huge

[afterhours]

malfeasant- now that's a $22 word. will have to use it, just hope they knoe what it means...Misconduct or wrongdoing, especially by a public official. good one.

[JohnR]

This means a lot for access, now expanded to two places.

[SeaWolf]

daunis/barrington is is difficult situation w/ a lot of history. there's too much to summarize here. no matter the decision, each RI ST ROW needs to be treated differently and can't be balled up into one ruling that all others will fall in line with. everyeone agrees with the RI Charter on shoreline access and that is always one of the first things out of someone's mouth on these types of issues.

ultimately, daunis is a state ROW, but the parking in question is on town land. that is the issue. that state does not have input there. so, the decision to be made this week will be on the town and its residents. if you are a member of the town, you NEED to show up. RISAA will be there and yes Bob is still chair of the Access Committee, as am i. dave (young salt) is more familiar with this ROW than i am as far as the details. i would be very surprised if you see someone from CRMC show up.

it's easy to post on a public forum your opinion of the who, what, where, why, etc., but it holds absolutely no weight here. you NEED to be on public record in a town meeting and voice your opinion there. i'm always amazed by the amount of press a ROW will get on a forum, but the lack of support when it is before a town meeting. if you are part of a local fishing club, such as one near this ROW, it should have been in your club's business recently. if it was not, why don't you take the initiative? we ALL need to network on all issues such as these so nothing sneaks thru the cracks. internet forums are nice, but club/organizational representation holds more weight.

back to daunis. you have a very close decision right now. this may come down to a single vote carrying the decision either way. that vote, and maybe others, may come down to how many show up and speak on behalf of either side of this decision. whether it's "right or wrong" may not matter as the representation may be the single carrying vote. we can only hope more people show up (fisherman, surfers, residents, etc.) in favor of keeping the parking.