Mastermind

[spence]

I had to search long and hard, about 6 seconds at least, using obscure tools like the Google, to determine that the cases will be tried under the Military Commissions process established under President Bush.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I had to search long and hard, about 6 seconds at least, using obscure tools like the Google, to determine that the cases will be tried under the Military Commissions process established under President Bush.

-spence

From what I understand is the trial is to be held in civilian court. Are you tring to say this is Bush's idea Spence? They never would step foot on American soil let alone NY, if Bush had his way. Nice try.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

From what I understand is the trial is to be held in civilian court. Are you tring to say this is Bush's idea Spence? They never would step foot on American soil let alone NY, if Bush had his way. Nice try.

Nice try? How about you try the Google...

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Nice try? How about you try the Google...

-spence

Not sure what your point is but the trials are being held in Fed. Court just blocks from Ground Zero.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Not sure what your point is but the trials are being held in Fed. Court just blocks from Ground Zero.

Ahhh, it looks like the news story I was reading had mixed the cases...I can't find it anymore, go figure...

But it also looks like we've convicted nearly 200 terrorists in US Federal court, so what's the problem?

Do you believe in due process? Either these guys are terrorists or they are not.

Do you think it's ethical to hold them indefinately and probably submit them to some torture along the way, if we don't as a nation, who says we follow the rule of law, believe they don't stand the test of our own courts?

If so, what do you believe in?

-spence

[Fly Rod]

Spence, I googled Flyrod and I haven't come up on any of the five pages, go figure.

Ya! Ya! Spence your getting like JB have to google to get your answers

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

Spence, I googled Flyrod and I haven't come up on any of the five pages, go figure.

Ya! Ya! Spence your getting like JB have to google to get your answers

I'm assuming JB, is suppose to be JD.

I don't google in order to get my answers. I google to show support for my response. There's a difference between reading some website then copy/pasting it over here and saying "hey look at this! I agree with this!", and making a point then supporting it.

Strange thing though, my posts tend to be fact based, as opposed to subjective ramblings.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Ahhh, it looks like the news story I was reading had mixed the cases...I can't find it anymore, go figure...

NO, YOU CONFUSED YOUR GOOGLES AND ARE WRONG

But it also looks like we've convicted nearly 200 terrorists in US Federal court, so what's the problem?

THE PROBLEM IS IT WILL BE A CIRCUS AND IS POINTLESS, DANGEROUS AND STUPID

Do you believe in due process? Either these guys are terrorists or they are not.

THEY ARE
Do you think it's ethical to hold them indefinately and probably submit them to some torture along the way, if we don't as a nation, who says we follow the rule of law, believe they don't stand the test of our own courts?

IF THEY ARE FOUND NOT GUILTY DO YOU THINK THEY ARE WALKING FREE?
If so, what do you believe in?

-spence

I believe that our civil court system is the wrong way of doling out justice to terrorist. Can you imagine coming up with an untainted jury pool of peers in of all places NYC.
You are giving the "masterminds" of the worst attack on the US since Pearl Harbor the open forumn to tell the world why they did it. They don't deserve that and the police, firefighters and people who suffered from 9/11 don't deserve that.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

I believe that our civil court system is the wrong way of doling out justice to terrorist. Can you imagine coming up with an untainted jury pool of peers in of all places NYC.
You are giving the "masterminds" of the worst attack on the US since Pearl Harbor the open forumn to tell the world why they did it. They don't deserve that and the police, firefighters and people who suffered from 9/11 don't deserve that.

Then what is justice?

Do we follow the rule of law or not?

There are serious implications here.

-spence

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Ahhh, it looks like the news story I was reading had mixed the cases...I can't find it anymore, go figure...

-spence

You didn't imagine it....I read the same article earlier.

was 4 going to NY for trial and 4-6 (can't remember exactly) facing a Military tribunal.

[scottw]

I wonder if these terrorists were read their Miranda rights? and I wonder how much evidence collected during their illegal and unjust detention will be admissable in court? Not to worry though, with an Attorney General with a history of terrorist pardons and a President whose best friend back in Chicago was a terrorist, we practically have terrorist experts on the job overseeing this whole operation...should be quite a spectacle...are these guys REALLY even terrorists or did they just "CRACK" and assist in the commission mass murder? maybe they were on Ambien?...and how do we even really know what their motivation was?.....they might make great college professors....

[buckman]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You didn't imagine it....I read the same article earlier.

was 4 going to NY for trial and 4-6 (can't remember exactly) facing a Military tribunal.

Try Fox news from now on

[Fly Rod]

Johnny, sorry about the B instead of D

I must have been intoxicated from the calcium in the milk. I'll only have a half glass the next time, it couldn't have been the cranberries in the cookies.