Mastermind

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Ahhh, it looks like the news story I was reading had mixed the cases...I can't find it anymore, go figure...

NO, YOU CONFUSED YOUR GOOGLES AND ARE WRONG

But it also looks like we've convicted nearly 200 terrorists in US Federal court, so what's the problem?

THE PROBLEM IS IT WILL BE A CIRCUS AND IS POINTLESS, DANGEROUS AND STUPID

Do you believe in due process? Either these guys are terrorists or they are not.

THEY ARE
Do you think it's ethical to hold them indefinately and probably submit them to some torture along the way, if we don't as a nation, who says we follow the rule of law, believe they don't stand the test of our own courts?

IF THEY ARE FOUND NOT GUILTY DO YOU THINK THEY ARE WALKING FREE?
If so, what do you believe in?

-spence

I believe that our civil court system is the wrong way of doling out justice to terrorist. Can you imagine coming up with an untainted jury pool of peers in of all places NYC.
You are giving the "masterminds" of the worst attack on the US since Pearl Harbor the open forumn to tell the world why they did it. They don't deserve that and the police, firefighters and people who suffered from 9/11 don't deserve that.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

I believe that our civil court system is the wrong way of doling out justice to terrorist. Can you imagine coming up with an untainted jury pool of peers in of all places NYC.
You are giving the "masterminds" of the worst attack on the US since Pearl Harbor the open forumn to tell the world why they did it. They don't deserve that and the police, firefighters and people who suffered from 9/11 don't deserve that.

Then what is justice?

Do we follow the rule of law or not?

There are serious implications here.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Then what is justice?

Do we follow the rule of law or not?

There are serious implications here.

-spence

No, we use a military tribunal. That still follows the rule of law. Answer me this.....Why NY? Why now? Convince me. You voted for this guy knowing what he stood for. Closing Gitmo was a main campaign pledge. This is something he said he would do.
On second thought, nothing you say will convince me this is a good idea. Don't bother.

[Fly Rod]

I'm taking a time out for cookies and milk.

Sorry!

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

No, we use a military tribunal. That still follows the rule of law.

Not according to the Supreme Court.

Think of it this way. GITMO was put in place by the "US Government" and from what I read the people detained there are not covered under any other jursidiction....

How could they not be covered under Federal laws?

-spence