MSBA Action Alert--Stripers Forever Bill Could Pass- Only One Hearing--This Thursday

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by numbskull

This bill will fail, and all of us will eventually suffer for it. If you like to fish for striped bass.....not make a living from them (as valid a use as that is).....gamefish status and greatly reduced recreational take was your best hope.

I could not agree more.

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I could not agree more.

Yes, let's make it a Gamefish, just like it is in NJ right??
Stripersforever wants to make it a gamefish but let's recreational guys keep a slot fish... Selfish, no??? Hypocrits???

From what I hear the meeting is still going, over 3 hours.... Heard it's pretty good... Guess StripersForever weren't welcome in open arms....
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[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by CowHunter

Yes, let's make it a Gamefish, just like it is in NJ right??
Stripersforever wants to make it a gamefish but let's recreational guys keep a slot fish... Selfish, no??? Hypocrits???

From what I hear the meeting is still going, over 3 hours.... Heard it's pretty good... Guess StripersForever weren't welcome in open arms....
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Gamefish status coast-wide. 1/day @ 36"+. Every fish gets at least a few years to spawn diversifying the gene pool, no one needs more than that for family consumption.

Like many have said before, unless you're a commercial fisherman, why would you want anything less than Gamefish status?

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Gamefish status coast-wide. 1/day @ 36"+. Every fish gets at least a few years to spawn diversifying the gene pool, no one needs more than that for family consumption.

Like many have said before, unless you're a commercial fisherman, why would you want anything less than Gamefish status?

Your speaking for a small surfcasting group and the majority of flyrodders.... I like the 36" limit, 1 fish, said it before. But how is that fair to the com guys.... Its still a fish, doesnt make it right for the recs to harvest them but not the coms.... Kind of a double standard??? You want a Gamefish, but want to be allowed to kill fish too???

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by CowHunter

Your speaking for a small surfcasting group and the majority of flyrodders.... I like the 36" limit, 1 fish, said it before. But how is that fair to the com guys.... Its still a fish, doesnt make it right for the recs to harvest them but not the coms.... Kind of a double standard??? You want a Gamefish, but want to be allowed to kill fish too???

You're forgetting that it's not what I want, it's what is best for the fish. The situation that would be absolutely best for the fish is no take at all, and if that happens eventually, all the better. I very rarely keep bass anyway. Unless you're a meat fisherman (commercial or rec.), there is no reason not to support gamefish status.

You're misdirected if you think regulation is about fairness.

[CowHunter]

I know you want whats best for the fish, so do I, as do all I would hope.... Im not arguing that... The problem is your with a very small group if fishermen that want a catch and release fishery for themselves. define Gamefish for me please? New jeresy is a Gamefish State, So you dont have a problem with me killing 12,000 lbs on my charters in May and June, but you have a problem with me killing 11,500 lbs in mass July and august because Im killing them and then selling them???

Just because you RARELY Keep a bass doesnt mean others should.... I happen to eat Bass regularly, so does my family, whats wrong with that??? You want to have people dictate what your allowed to eat or not?

Its a shared resource that needs to be shared, and managed properly...

Your in the Group that thinks Recs should take a 100% of the Catch, how is that right?? You see what a small group you represent clearly on the showing for stripers forever yesterday... How may members do they have???

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by CowHunter

I know you want whats best for the fish, so do I, as do all I would hope.... Im not arguing that... The problem is your with a very small group if fishermen that want a catch and release fishery for themselves. define Gamefish for me please? New jeresy is a Gamefish State, So you dont have a problem with me killing 12,000 lbs on my charters in May and June, but you have a problem with me killing 11,500 lbs in mass July and august because Im killing them and then selling them???

Game fish status as I understand it is no commercial take and severely limited Rec take. If "Jersey Shore" on MTV has taught us anything, it's that NJ shouldn't be taken as the rule with regards to anything.

Just because you RARELY Keep a bass doesnt mean others should.... I happen to eat Bass regularly, so does my family, whats wrong with that??? You want to have people dictate what your allowed to eat or not?

There is a lot wrong with it, if you have read recent reports concerning mercury and PCP content in Striped Bass. As Makia stated, some studies have shown that women and children shouldn't eat *any* striped bass.

Its a shared resource that needs to be shared, and managed properly...

Exactly. And the most effective way to properly manage it is to drastically limit how many fish can be taken. The tons of juvenile SB being netted in the Chesapeake isn't doing anyone any favors, nor is 2 fish @ 28" for Recs or 30 fish/day and 5 on Sundays for Comms.

Let's lay it all out there. You're a commercial guy and you run charters. Legislation like this would certainly take money out of your pocket and many others. Nothing about this legislation is beneficial to you. You are also in a drastic minority and you're right, it's not fair. On the other hand, there is no way you can argue that no Commercial take and 1 fish/day @ 36" for everyone is not in the best interest of the Striped Bass. You'd still be able to eat striped bass for dinner with your family and no one is telling you what you can and can't eat.

[trapperpierre]

Solution.......Ban all recreational and commercial fishing on eastern seaboard...designate all coastal waters(including bays and rivers and shorelines) MPAs...........bring down the Newfoundlanders/Labradorians for the sealing project....focus on developing aquaculture/rearing great whites for release.......and now with all our spare time........meet at The Colony Tap in P-town(during the safer off season-less tourists)...I'm buying(non drinkers soft drinks) and all of us can reminisce about the good old days of angling..................before all this confusion leads us down the road to the loss of our respective life styles.................................. ......

[MAKAI]

Wish they would hold these sessions at night.
So the full time working stiffs could attend.

[BigFish]

Most of us have to work to save money for our fishing permits!!!