MSBA Action Alert--Stripers Forever Bill Could Pass- Only One Hearing--This Thursday

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I could not agree more.

Yes, let's make it a Gamefish, just like it is in NJ right??
Stripersforever wants to make it a gamefish but let's recreational guys keep a slot fish... Selfish, no??? Hypocrits???

From what I hear the meeting is still going, over 3 hours.... Heard it's pretty good... Guess StripersForever weren't welcome in open arms....
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[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by CowHunter

Yes, let's make it a Gamefish, just like it is in NJ right??
Stripersforever wants to make it a gamefish but let's recreational guys keep a slot fish... Selfish, no??? Hypocrits???

From what I hear the meeting is still going, over 3 hours.... Heard it's pretty good... Guess StripersForever weren't welcome in open arms....
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Gamefish status coast-wide. 1/day @ 36"+. Every fish gets at least a few years to spawn diversifying the gene pool, no one needs more than that for family consumption.

Like many have said before, unless you're a commercial fisherman, why would you want anything less than Gamefish status?

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Gamefish status coast-wide. 1/day @ 36"+. Every fish gets at least a few years to spawn diversifying the gene pool, no one needs more than that for family consumption.

Like many have said before, unless you're a commercial fisherman, why would you want anything less than Gamefish status?

Your speaking for a small surfcasting group and the majority of flyrodders.... I like the 36" limit, 1 fish, said it before. But how is that fair to the com guys.... Its still a fish, doesnt make it right for the recs to harvest them but not the coms.... Kind of a double standard??? You want a Gamefish, but want to be allowed to kill fish too???

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by CowHunter

Your speaking for a small surfcasting group and the majority of flyrodders.... I like the 36" limit, 1 fish, said it before. But how is that fair to the com guys.... Its still a fish, doesnt make it right for the recs to harvest them but not the coms.... Kind of a double standard??? You want a Gamefish, but want to be allowed to kill fish too???

You're forgetting that it's not what I want, it's what is best for the fish. The situation that would be absolutely best for the fish is no take at all, and if that happens eventually, all the better. I very rarely keep bass anyway. Unless you're a meat fisherman (commercial or rec.), there is no reason not to support gamefish status.

You're misdirected if you think regulation is about fairness.

[CowHunter]

I know you want whats best for the fish, so do I, as do all I would hope.... Im not arguing that... The problem is your with a very small group if fishermen that want a catch and release fishery for themselves. define Gamefish for me please? New jeresy is a Gamefish State, So you dont have a problem with me killing 12,000 lbs on my charters in May and June, but you have a problem with me killing 11,500 lbs in mass July and august because Im killing them and then selling them???

Just because you RARELY Keep a bass doesnt mean others should.... I happen to eat Bass regularly, so does my family, whats wrong with that??? You want to have people dictate what your allowed to eat or not?

Its a shared resource that needs to be shared, and managed properly...

Your in the Group that thinks Recs should take a 100% of the Catch, how is that right?? You see what a small group you represent clearly on the showing for stripers forever yesterday... How may members do they have???

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by CowHunter

I know you want whats best for the fish, so do I, as do all I would hope.... Im not arguing that... The problem is your with a very small group if fishermen that want a catch and release fishery for themselves. define Gamefish for me please? New jeresy is a Gamefish State, So you dont have a problem with me killing 12,000 lbs on my charters in May and June, but you have a problem with me killing 11,500 lbs in mass July and august because Im killing them and then selling them???

Game fish status as I understand it is no commercial take and severely limited Rec take. If "Jersey Shore" on MTV has taught us anything, it's that NJ shouldn't be taken as the rule with regards to anything.

Just because you RARELY Keep a bass doesnt mean others should.... I happen to eat Bass regularly, so does my family, whats wrong with that??? You want to have people dictate what your allowed to eat or not?

There is a lot wrong with it, if you have read recent reports concerning mercury and PCP content in Striped Bass. As Makia stated, some studies have shown that women and children shouldn't eat *any* striped bass.

Its a shared resource that needs to be shared, and managed properly...

Exactly. And the most effective way to properly manage it is to drastically limit how many fish can be taken. The tons of juvenile SB being netted in the Chesapeake isn't doing anyone any favors, nor is 2 fish @ 28" for Recs or 30 fish/day and 5 on Sundays for Comms.

Let's lay it all out there. You're a commercial guy and you run charters. Legislation like this would certainly take money out of your pocket and many others. Nothing about this legislation is beneficial to you. You are also in a drastic minority and you're right, it's not fair. On the other hand, there is no way you can argue that no Commercial take and 1 fish/day @ 36" for everyone is not in the best interest of the Striped Bass. You'd still be able to eat striped bass for dinner with your family and no one is telling you what you can and can't eat.

[CowHunter]

Jersey Shore, I heard some simple minds were entertained by it, dont know, because I have better things to do than waste my time and watch an episode... But Hey, thats just me..

Severely limit the rec take??? I like the one at 36", but killing 5 million pounds vs 10 million pounds is severe??

I really dont think what people eat is of mine, nor your concern... Theres alot of stuff thats bad for you.... Been eating striped bass quite often for 22 years or so, last I looked Im still here and healthy... Besides, You can always sue the state that allows sale if you get cancer or something...


Nothing in the legislature is benificial to me? THE HEALTH OF THE STRIPED BASS POPULATION IS BENIFICAL TO ME....I do care about a healthy striped bass stock, and I am well aware of what goes up and down the coast. Im all for the cuts, but to wipe out and blame striped bass commercial pinhookers for what ANYBODY that kills a striped bass is guilty of is wrong...

As a commercial guy I dont see a 10% catch as wrong... As a Charter guy I m saying we kill more fish than need be recreationally. Im saying that we dont need to kill 2-3 fish a man... Coming in with 15 dead bass on a charter is a bit overkill, I know alot of that meat will be wasted or given away to people that dont appreciate it...

Am I that wrong??? I mean hello, only .5% supported StripersForever...