Who lasts longer at surfcasting? - Page 2 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Saltheart · 01-22-2009, 11:27 PM

Red collar or green collar doesn't matter. Its a unique thing for each person. We all get old. Assuming you stay psyched to fish and fish hard when you go , the activity itself keeps you in shape until you turn a corner when do to age and deterioration the activity starts to wear you down. Luck relative to injuries or disease determines how quickly you age in this sport.

Clogston29 · 01-23-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Saltheart

Assuming you stay psyched to fish and fish hard when you go , the activity itself keeps you in shape until you turn a corner when do to age and deterioration the activity starts to wear you down.

have to disagree with you there. i think relying on fishing to keep you in shape is a mistake. just look around. as far as fitness benefits of fishing, its really an easy activity - no matter how "extreme" you try to make it.

if anything, the lack of sleep probably has worse effects on overall health than any benefit of being "active"

bassballer · 01-23-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Clogston29

have to disagree with you there. i think relying on fishing to keep you in shape is a mistake. just look around. as far as fitness benefits of fishing, its really an easy activity - no matter how "extreme" you try to make it.

if anything, the lack of sleep probably has worse effects on overall health than any benefit of being "active"

I agree with this. Fishing alone no matter how "hard" you fish doesnt take the place of cardio, and core/weight training, eating clean, that is needed to really keep the body in shape. Being out in the surf all night, sleep deprevation, late night eating, coffee, red bull, isnt at all "good for you". Relying on some rock hopping, and some beach walking, little swimming, isnt going to GET you in shape.

WESTPORTMAFIA · 01-23-2009, 11:57 AM

I think it comes down to passion for the sport. I sit at a desk for 10 hrs a day and I'm beat both mentally and physically it just drains you. I feel worse than when I was doing 50hrs of manual labor. White or Blue it's in your blood. If I changed careers I would fish the same amount.

Pete F. · 01-22-2009, 11:37 PM

This reminds me of the old joke about the old bull and the young bull standing on top of the hill looking down at a herd of heifers. The young bull says to the old bull: I think I'll run down there and breed one of them, the old bull says go ahead and slowly walks down and does them all.
As I get older I tend to try and spend my time wisely.

keeperreaper · 01-23-2009, 04:48 AM

I think age and level of fitness is the key. A fresh 20-30 y.o in great shape will outlast a 60 y.o. in great shape. Cant beat father time. Walking 4 miles all night in the sand was never a problem when I was younger now I admit I get tired on the homeward stretch. On the other side of the coin as you get older wiser and more experienced you can reap more success in less time by applying learned lessons and using gained knowledge to compensate for lost stamina.
Your collar color doesnt matter.

BassDawg · 01-23-2009, 06:29 AM

and an excellent wintertime thread!!!

BUT; in my humble opinion~~~

i think alot of who outlasts who from the physical
side of the equation comes down to DNA/genes.

some bodies are blessed by their ancestors to have the
capacity to stay in good physical conditioning with less efforts
than most of the same size, age, and experiences~~~
regardless the COLOR of their COLLAR,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

when i consider the mental aspects of this sport we love,
DZ and others have summed it up nicely by bringing the
WANT factor into it. ie hungries, and extremists.

i am a Local #7 Union Ironworker. for over twenty years i've been abusing my body against the steel. as i age, i learn more about "working the iron" vs "the iron working me". yet we ALL only have so many reps/casts/rock hops/turns of the wrenches/mental distresses in us before time and nature reduce our capacities to do ANYTHING!!

that being said, i have to WANT it every day to continue in my trade~~~~
my knees, shoulders, elbows, and ankles are turning to junk, relatively speaking. i can still "throw bolts" with the best of them ~young or old; but i believe that my productivity at this stage in life is more based on my DESIRE and my "working smarter, NOT harder" approach that my diminished physical capacities have thrust upon me. don't get me wrong i am still very capable of "gittin' r done",,,,,,,,,,,,i just feeel it more these days,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

imho, this same dynamic applies to the mental side of surfcasting. while it may hurt more and take more out of me physically,
i am MORE driven and am learning to maximize my windows of opportunity, so that i reap the greatest return on my investments of time, energy, family sacrifice, and both the mental and physical stresses that surfcasting requires from us hungries/fish harders.

the fact that i experience this everyday at work, the ability to dig deep and keep digging and finish each day STRONG,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,gives me the wherewithal to "find that place" during each nights haunts. i am also trying to feesh smarter and work the surf, rather than the opposites of both,,,,,,,,,,,,,so my vote is for BC,,,,,,,,,,,all things considered and the above mentioned exceptions applied.

STILL, each night out is a Blessing and i count every striper dawn as joy. since i get sooooooo much more from surfcasting, than it could ever take from me. whether catching or not, the rejuvinative powers (both mentaly and physically) derived from living the nights and dreaming the dreams and chasing the COWS and slamming the surf gives me a solace of mind, body, and spirit that i've yet to find in a various sundry of recreations/sports/hobbies/addictions ~lo these 48 1/2 years.

I LOVE THIS SHEEEEEET, and the same is true for my job!!
i think that it is a pre-requisite for both; irrespective of the collar's color we wear to put bread on the table. as has been said; El Stripera cares NOT what color one's collar is, she's just trying to kick yer adzzz and drop that hook infested eeeeeeeel that you've deeply stuck in her maw.

Flaptail · 01-23-2009, 06:36 AM

See, the thing is, as you get older you are supposed to have gotten wiser and learned somethings, like when to be at a certain place and for how long as it corresponds to when fish will be there on a certain stage of the tide.

I used to flail away all night long only to slowly realize the fish show at certain times and tides and it makes no sense to kill yourself once the intel has been learned.

Don't fish hard, fish smart.

BassDawg · 01-23-2009, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail

See, the thing is, as you get older you are supposed to have gotten wiser and learned somethings, like when to be at a certain place and for how long as it corresponds to when fish will be there on a certain stage of the tide.

I used to flail away all night long only to slowly realize the fish show at certain times and tides and it makes no sense to kill yourself once the intel has been learned.

Don't fish hard, fish smart.

PREEEEE

CISELY!!

that's why i luvs me honeyhole,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

firstcast, beefy eeeeels, HT, new or pissin' full and

yer intoTALL cotton on sum cows,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Tagger · 01-23-2009, 03:54 PM

You lift alot but don't get alot of good cardio doing construction .. Construction workers diet off the garbage truck,, pizza ,, sausage subs,,cheese burgers,, add cigarettes and mass quanitys of beer and coffee .. You get older you tend to want to just lay down and die .. Can't do that ,, gotta hit the gym .,.gotta do cardio ..I have alot of new female friends working out with the girls . Wish I did this when I was younger ..

HESH2 · 01-24-2009, 08:25 AM

i tkink age is the biggest factor here.i'm old blue collar who fishes over 100 days a year,all from surf during daylite.my body is beat up from age and blue collar work.i look at 2 of my white collar sons,who are in pretty good shape and can go hours day or nite fishing hard.they can do the walk and do the talk.

l.i.fish.in.vt · 01-23-2009, 08:22 AM

Bruce, i think i have a few years on you and if anything i am fishing harder and skiing harder than i ever had.i think the biggest factor is staying in shape both mentally and physically. once you start using the i am getting older excuse you are on the way down.i still enjoy staying up all night fishing,even when i know the best fishing can often be had in a certain few hours. just being at waters edge when no one else is around is enough to keep me going.

planter · 01-23-2009, 09:42 AM

I guess when I first read the question I just assumed that it suggested the white collar guy earn more money. I know a few blue collar who make pretty good dough and I know white collar guys who can barely afford their suits.

It's the guy who is motivated even after hours of "wasted" time and no signs of fish but who keeps going like every cast is his first cast.

The Iceman 6 · 01-23-2009, 04:10 PM

It's all in the mind, if you don't mind, it don't matter.

jimmy z · 01-24-2009, 06:35 AM

I think it depends on how much into this thing we do, one is.
How much drive and motivation does one have? To do this thing we do.

Tagger · 01-24-2009, 06:46 AM

sleep apnia can't help .. starting the night out on half a tank .

Raven · 01-24-2009, 07:27 AM

we are extremely close to having a gadget that we can put on our head and get 4 hours of solid rem sleep in 25 minutes...

they will be expensive at first....

Japan's most smartest inventor came up with the idea
several years ago

but he built an elaborate relaxation recliner which will
eventually become a Mobile device instead.

that will be the BALLS.......

davisd · 01-24-2009, 07:58 AM

I say neither. You find and make the time if you truly want to fish. Just my thought.

FishermanTim · 01-22-2009, 04:42 PM

I say Blue collar

And no offense intended towards anyone.

White collar = hobby (spend more on the price of the gear, than on the experience gained by learning from mishaps) fishes more the "easy" way.

Blue collar = obsession (spends more time fishing than money for coffee, gaining more experience than "top of the line" gear.) Tends to know all the rocks on their favorite jetty personally, and at night!

This has been my observation, and by no means is indicative of surfcasters as a whole.

DZ · 01-22-2009, 05:05 PM

The young "hungries" of either type last the longest - I remember those days and all night jaunts. They make me tired just thinking about them. But I soon learned the best lesson of all as I got older - that lesson is "Knowing when to quit." Sometimes the bass win. Now I just spend the optimum time I can without burning myself out. Still do an all nighter on occasion - but only if conditions dictate.

Circlehook · 01-22-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FishermanTim

I say Blue collar

And no offense intended towards anyone.

White collar = hobby (spend more on the price of the gear, than on the experience gained by learning from mishaps) fishes more the "easy" way.

Blue collar = obsession (spends more time fishing than money for coffee, gaining more experience than "top of the line" gear.) Tends to know all the rocks on their favorite jetty personally, and at night!

This has been my observation, and by no means is indicative of surfcasters as a whole.

No offense taken, but I think your very wrong. Don't assume that just because someone is "white collar" that they are making any more money than the "blue collar" people.

What you do for work, or how you pay your bills has absolutely nothing to do with how much effort or love you put into fishing.

Backbeach Jake · 01-22-2009, 09:04 PM

I'm BC and getting toward 60, I sure need a lot of breaks during my outings these days. I still enjoy and live for the surf, but I'm beat. Still, the few times that I get to see a sunrise on the back beaches is absolutely priceless to me.
In my prime, I fished non stop for days on end, every chance I got.

NIB · 01-22-2009, 09:07 PM

No need for viagra yet..

HESH2 · 01-26-2009, 08:20 AM

after reading all the posts,different jobs,age,body types etc.what it really comes down too is everbodys passion to go fishing.our passion is what drives us all.