Does it make you angry that the Striper industry...

[stripermaineiac]

MMMMM
interesting thread.When I was 10 I caught lots of fish.When I was 20 I caught more fish than most.When I was 30 I caught more bigger fish than most in more places.When I was 40 I caught more big fish on gear I made in more different places I'd learned. When i was 50 I started landing lots more big fish than most just not where most fished. Well I'm still fishing,learning,catching and releasing more fish than most just now i do it on stuff I make from copying all those experts that I met over the years an reading all those books written by all those blowin their own whistle.Aint no ones fault but mine when I loose a big one an no ones fault but your own for blamin something like fishing for people. Just go out an fish. Enjoy it and you'll catch more fish and fish your own game. You'll catch more fish.LOL I just did a mini seminar. Ron

[ProfessorM]

life is all about choices . You can always choose not to do something, not to buy something, not to listen to someone's opinions. I haven't got time to worry about things like this. Life is too short. I do what I enjoy and how I enjoy doing it. I let others worry about the important stuff.

[Swimmer]

No.

[WoodyCT]

But it angers me that those companies, especially the big ones based over seas like S. and D., don't do more to invest in the future of the resource.

Invest in what you profit from, HEALTHY FISHERIES!

[Joe]

My son said he wanted to become competent surfcaster someday, I told him to forget it - he could become a doctor in less time.
That's what people don't realize - nowadays, the best and the brightest are not in law, medicine and finance, they're in the recreational fishing industry - that's what all the really smart people are doing these days.

[Crafty Angler]

Originally Posted by Joe

...That's what people don't realize - nowadays, the best and the brightest are not in law, medicine and finance, they're in the recreational fishing industry - that's what all the really smart people are doing these days.

Geez, Joe, I never thought of that - perhaps the MacArthur Foundation really is looking to grant one of their 'genius' Awards to a fish-head somewhere to further their studies unfettered by financial concerns...

Boy, I called this one wrong - I'll have to admit this thread took a turn I never anticipated...

I've been thinking, maybe Krispy's anger is just the result of a personal epiphany and the pangs of passing through the looking glass into the realm of Zen. Coming to terms with the inevitable paradigm shift is never easy...

Or maybe he's just sick of buying worthless fishing crap...

[Pt.JudeJoe]

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[Pete_G]

Originally Posted by Crafty Angler

I've been thinking, maybe Krispy's anger is just the result of a personal epiphany and the pangs of passing through the looking glass into the realm of Zen. Coming to terms with the inevitable paradigm shift is never easy...

Or maybe he's just sick of buying worthless fishing crap...

I was going to go into a diatribe on the changing nature of the relationship between retail, wholesale, and marketing and the effect of the modern, anyone can do it marketing mentality thanks to Facebook, online forums, Twitter, easy to use video editing software and all the other tools now available which are probably the reasons everyone feels so heavily pressured all the time (not just in the fishing industry).

But I didn't really care enough and couldn't fully decipher what was actually going on in the thread so a little humor thanks to the Iron Midget seemed more appropriate.

[DZ]

Interesting thread and interesting opinions but there is so much more.

I think some try and simplify what we do which is a mistake. There is so much to learn and it’s not all about the “catching”. There are many out there that know how to catch - but just as many don’t know “why” they’re catching. I’ve been fishing the surf for about 40 years and in that time I’ve met maybe two hands worth of fishermen who IMO truly understand how to consistently take large bass from the surf – all of them had an intimate relationship with the areas they fished regularly and could easily adapt to a new location. They not only knew where and when – but they all took the time to try and uncover the reasons why.

I’ve had fishermen ask me for some guidance about where to fish in Newport or Block – I usually provide them with a baseline of locations and tides. But very few have ever asked me why this spot and why at this time? Those are the questions you need to try and answer and believe me it would take more than one page to list them. This is what I try and convey in some of my writing and seminars.

For example: Interested Surfcaster- “What is the one location I should cast when I go to Block?” DZ – “Fish the bar at SW.” Interested surfcaster – “Great, thanks!”
Follow up question that should be asked but wasn’t: Interested surfcaster – “Why the bar at SW?” DZ – “The bar at SW is a feeding station during the last three hours of the ebb. The current pulls hard right to left and as the water level drops it will allow you to fish all three sides of a cobble bar. Sand eels like to bury in the sandy areas between the cobble. There is a slight drop in the bowl to the north – many times the bass will be stationed on this lip so don’t end your retrieve too soon as the bass will hit just as your lifting your plug out of the water. Sometimes they station on the point of the outer edge of the bar and long casts are needed to reach them so get there early and try to position yourself with a shot at the point. Cast toward the light at Montauk on the left side of the bar – barely retrieve your Gibbs needle – don’t worry it won’t hang up because the pulling current will help keep it skimming the surface, just like a live Atlantic Needlefish. It’s very shallow on that side but the bass will all be pointed in your direction waiting for your needlefish. Strikes can be subtle – if you feel any weight – set! That is how to fish the bar with calm water and no sea. Now if you have a wind from the Northwest….”

You’ll never learn the entire “why question”. I know if I did I would have quit fishing long ago.

How's it going Rizzo!

DZ

[rizzo]

Originally Posted by DZ

You’ll never learn the entire “why question”. I know if I did I would have quit fishing long ago.

How's it going Rizzo!

DZ

Hey Dennis - its been a while too! Check your PM!

[Crafty Angler]

Originally Posted by Pt.JudeJoe

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AHA!!! Subliminal advertising!!!

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Originally Posted by Pete_G

...But I didn't really care enough and couldn't fully decipher what was actually going on in the thread so a little humor thanks to the Iron Midget seemed more appropriate.

And probably one of the best from the Oracle of Anheiser, Pete...

I remember a guy saying once it's just fishing, it's supposed to be fun...

[Nebe]

Live bait in the dark near rocks and current as often as possible. Chumming helps.
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[jeffthechef]

Originally Posted by Krispy

Has created a commercial platform that gains from the continued sales of must have products, misinformation, flat out lies to keep its fishermen spending in their attempt achieve the successes of purported guides and mystic sharpie gurus?

wow. i used to agree with that 100%. but i always keep in mind though that as long as "fisherman" voluntarily want to spend money to "get better" or for "must have products" the "striper industry" will grow. a lot of guys make money on that fish via plugs, books, products, you name it...It blows my mind how so much that has been written lately is just echong what was written 30 or more years ago!
But that money goes into our economy one way or another, so really, the "striper industry" is indicative of of any consumer industry in the world. thats why some guy years ago said "let the buyer beware".

[The Dad Fisherman]

How about The Banjo Minnow....any thoughts on their productivity.....the Ads Guarantee Large

[Clogston29]

almost everything that you do in life is influenced by a commerical platform (to use your words). why would fishing be any different?

[Nebe]

[MAKAI]

Man, my truck windows need a thorough cleaning.
I am SURE they need to be cleaned every day. . . it's not safe to be driving around with dirty windows,

[Krispy]

Shoot, just wanted to get a winter topic going with a little controversy to get it started. 50 replies in 24 hours is pretty good
As many people posted, in the end the choices are ours as consumers who to buy from and to whom we listen to. Target large or enjoy a sunrise, to each his own.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

How about The Banjo Minnow....any thoughts on their productivity.....the Ads Guarantee Large

Ask the OTW staff. A couple months ago they whored out the "Lure of the Month" page for the Banjo Minnow.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Ask the OTW staff. A couple months ago they whored out the "Lure of the Month" page for the Banjo Minnow.

Did they really...Ouch.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Did they really...Ouch.

Yup. I can't imagine what they were thinking or how they expect to be taken seriously when it comes to product reviews.

After that, I'm now expecting at least a quarter-page review in 2010 on the Sham-wow and how useful it is when washing your boat.

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Yup. I can't imagine what they were thinking or how they expect to be taken seriously when it comes to product reviews.

After that, I'm now expecting at least a quarter-page review in 2010 on the Sham-wow and how useful it is when washing your boat.

There's a good size ad for the Banjo Minnow in the latest edition of OTW. Hey, they cater to freshwater fishing too, I guess.

Oh, and there was also a ShamWow booth at the RI Saltwater Sportsman show last spring.

[capesams]

mess up their scent trail and watch them walk into each other...or perhaps find the guy blowing the flute an stuff it where it's dark an deep.