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07-25-2020, 10:59 AM
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First it was Wall of Moms, then Wall of Dads and now it’s Wall of Vets, so he’s finally getting a wall.
Don’t think Tweety’s attempt to change the narrative from his incompetence on the virus to law and order is working.
Just more division and lack of leadership.
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07-25-2020, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
First it was Wall of Moms, then Wall of Dads and now it’s Wall of Vets, so he’s finally getting a wall.
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oh good....walls of poor excuses for parents and morons protecting juvenile delinquents destroying things.....this is going to be fun
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07-25-2020, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
First it was Wall of Moms, then Wall of Dads and now it’s Wall of Vets, so he’s finally getting a wall.
Don’t think Tweety’s attempt to change the narrative from his incompetence on the virus to law and order is working.
Just more division and lack of leadership.
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Which is it? He has no constitutional right to dictate the use of federal agents in the states. He has the right to dictate to the states on how the pandemic is handled in their states.
Sometimes you want to accuse him of being a dictator, but other times you say he is incompetent because he doesn't dictate.
The truth is your wrong on both counts. Our present system does give him authority to protect federal property in the states as well as to protect any constitutional rights of the people in those states if the the states are not capable or unwilling to do so. But he is not empowered to be the dictator of how the states handle their medical procedures.
Just because your narrative is that he has been incompetent on the handling of the virus, doesn't make it so. He has done his part well enough. We have a federated system of governance and, according to the pandemic plan created by the previous administrations, the bulk of the duty on handling the virus falls on the states. You make nebulous charges of him supposedly getting some early warnings by intel which have been denied by intel. The pandemic cupboard was empty when he took office, and I haven't heard evidence that he was warned early on that the previous administration had left the shelves empty, and the states had also not restocked. The country was woefully unprepared even though there was a plan in place, because nobody had followed it. We were left totally unprepared by the previous administration and the by the failure of the states and the failure of the CDC. And by the failure of China and the WHO to warn us early on, but, instead, quite the contrary, to downplay the nature of the virus.
Trump had to gear up the Federal part, which was the bungling CDC which he inherited and backing up the states with supplies where necessary. His administration did that, and it was a massive and well done effort.
Your narrative is a twisted, contradictory, purposefully politicized constant message meant to destroy Trump.
And reality is that it is not about Trump. The Dems only hope is to make it about him, but they would have done the same to any other Repub President. It is not about the man, it is about regaining the power to finish and securely put in place their Progressive agenda.
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07-25-2020, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Which is it? He has no constitutional right to dictate the use of federal agents in the states. He has the right to dictate to the states on how the pandemic is handled in their states.
Sometimes you want to accuse him of being a dictator, but other times you say he is incompetent because he doesn't dictate.
The truth is your wrong on both counts. Our present system does give him authority to protect federal property in the states as well as to protect any constitutional rights of the people in those states if the the states are not capable or unwilling to do so. But he is not empowered to be the dictator of how the states handle their medical procedures.
Leadership is not equivalent to dictatorship.
It’s as simple as modeling behavior that will reduce the spread of COVID-19
He’s incapable of leading
Just because your narrative is that he has been incompetent on the handling of the virus, doesn't make it so. He has done his part well enough. We have a federated system of governance and, according to the pandemic plan created by the previous administrations, the bulk of the duty on handling the virus falls on the states. You make nebulous charges of him supposedly getting some early warnings by intel which have been denied by intel. The pandemic cupboard was empty when he took office, and I haven't heard evidence that he was warned early on that the previous administration had left the shelves empty, and the states had also not restocked. The country was woefully unprepared even though there was a plan in place, because nobody had followed it. We were left totally unprepared by the previous administration and the by the failure of the states and the failure of the CDC. And by the failure of China and the WHO to warn us early on, but, instead, quite the contrary, to downplay the nature of the virus.
Trump had to gear up the Federal part, which was the bungling CDC which he inherited and backing up the states with supplies where necessary. His administration did that, and it was a massive and well done effort.
Lies, what was not there was due to the absolute refusal of the Tea party to fund anything the former administration needed.
The plans were in place and actually were successfully used by many other developed nations
Tweety failed to act
Your narrative is a twisted, contradictory, purposefully politicized constant message meant to destroy Trump.
Tweety is currently destroying his name and what remains of the Republican Party
And reality is that it is not about Trump. The Dems only hope is to make it about him, but they would have done the same to any other Repub President. It is not about the man, it is about regaining the power to finish and securely put in place their Progressive agenda.
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When Tweety sent his Graffiti Gestapo to Portland there were about 50 protesters. Last night there were 10,000 Americans standing against the Rise of the Tweety’s Turd Reich.
Americans see through his divisive policies to foment civil war
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07-25-2020, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
When Tweety sent his Graffiti Gestapo to Portland there were about 50 protesters. Last night there were 10,000 Americans standing against the Rise of the Tweety’s Turd Reich.
Americans see through his divisive policies to foment civil war
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Sometimes you appear to be batchit crazy.
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07-25-2020, 05:53 PM
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Hey he is running out of groups to alienate, even the guy locally that had his front lawn covered with Trump full size cutouts and veterans for Trump signs, has pulled all the Trump support signs.
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07-25-2020, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Hey he is running out of groups to alienate, even the guy locally that had his front lawn covered with Trump full size cutouts and veterans for Trump signs, has pulled all the Trump support signs.
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This is truly important news.
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07-25-2020, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
This is truly important news.
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Well considering a veteran had a full size cutout of Trump, A six foot tall fist with a middle finger next to a sign with two foot letters saying impeach this, suddenly takes it all down is telling.
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07-25-2020, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Well considering a veteran had a full size cutout of Trump, A six foot tall fist with a middle finger next to a sign with two foot letters saying impeach this, suddenly takes it all down is telling.
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Yup. That cutout certainly tells the whole story.
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07-26-2020, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Yup. That cutout certainly tells the whole story.
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This is the stuff he finds important.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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07-25-2020, 06:06 PM
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As far as what Tweety failed to do, here’s a start
Why is it that we haven’t done what we should have? Which of these?
1-Letting tens of thousands into the country from China & Europe despite contrary claims?
2-Disbanding our task force in May?
3-Pretending this was a hoax until March?
4-Reducing & defunding testing
5-The president encouraging & failing to quash the “truthers”
6-Unwillingness to call for & encourage mask mandate
7-Not taking 3-4 week hard shut down
8-Defunding testing/testing sites
9-Not funding contact tracing
10-Eliminating pandemic response teams
11-Leaving bars open
11-Mixed messaging/inconsistent leadership
12-No coordinated national approach
13-Elimination of nursing home safety fines
14-Congressional stalling
15-Leaving meatpacking plants open
16-Not caring about jails & prisons
17-CDC mistakes
18-No stockpiles
19-Anti-science
20-FDA
That list of 20 things was too easy to arrive at. And any of the 20 could have been accomplished. Most of them should have. With diligence, all of them would have.
There’s no reason to be here now.
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07-25-2020, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
That list of 20 things was too easy to arrive at. And any of the 20 could have been accomplished. Most of them should have. With diligence, all of them would have.
There’s no reason to be here now.
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Too easy because the are mostly false or misleading. Most are state responsibilities. Most of the federal problems were inherited which he corrected.
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