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07-05-2013, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
That's not true. The year delay is for the entire mandate which exempts most small business. Also 96% of these employees are already covered by their employers.
Hence, not a huge deal.
No, it means the treasury department isn't ready to enforce it.
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Spence, many of the employees already covered by their employers are going to end up on the Obamacare plan because they don't make enough money to continue with their employer sponsored plan.
You throw numbers out there that look nice for your argument, but you haven't done any research to know what the real ramifications of the plan are for both the employers and the employees.
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07-07-2013, 05:26 AM
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Spence, many of the employees already covered by their employers are going to end up on the Obamacare plan because they don't make enough money to continue with their employer sponsored plan.
You throw numbers out there that look nice for your argument, but you haven't done any research to know what the real ramifications of the plan are for both the employers and the employees.
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I located the problem...
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Originally Posted by spence
From what I've read it's not that big of a deal.
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07-07-2013, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by fishbones
Spence, many of the employees already covered by their employers are going to end up on the Obamacare plan because they don't make enough money to continue with their employer sponsored plan.
You throw numbers out there that look nice for your argument, but you haven't done any research to know what the real ramifications of the plan are for both the employers and the employees.
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What does this have to do with a 1 year extension on the employee mandate?
-spence
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07-07-2013, 09:21 AM
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What does this have to do with a 1 year extension on the employee mandate?
-spence
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Re-elections
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07-07-2013, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
Re-elections
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Context.
-spence
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07-07-2013, 11:56 AM
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Spence, many of the employees already covered by their employers are going to end up on the Obamacare plan because they don't make enough money to continue with their employer sponsored plan.
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What does this have to do with a 1 year extension on the employee mandate?
-spence
they need to delay it to get past the election because the cluster bleep that is obamacare is not yet prepared to handle the mess(and will never be) that will result if the mandate goes into effect when it was required to and then leading up to the mid-terms...could be a slaughter....
"that's not true"
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07-07-2013, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fishbones View Post
Spence, many of the employees already covered by their employers are going to end up on the Obamacare plan because they don't make enough money to continue with their employer sponsored plan.
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What does this have to do with a 1 year extension on the employee mandate?
-spence
they need to delay it to get past the election because the cluster bleep that is obamacare is not yet prepared to handle the mess(and will never be) that will result if the mandate goes into effect when it was required to ..... which happens to be right around election time....
"that's not true"
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If they're already on an employer plan, why would the delay in the employer mandate force them onto a govt plan? This doesn't make a lot of sense.
And I like how you mix and match responses.
-spence
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07-07-2013, 12:35 PM
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If they're already on an employer plan, why would the delay in the employer mandate force them onto a govt plan? .
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no one has said this...try to pay attention
And I like how you mix and match nonsense when you have nowhere left to go. 
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07-07-2013, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
Re-elections
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 , plus the fact it's so complicated it can't be implemented.
I would bet there are few, if any even now, that read and understand it in it's
entirety.
I doubt even an Obamacare for Dummies Book could simplify it.
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