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Old 09-24-2013, 11:40 AM   #1
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You need to reach out a little, there is no story here.

Unions claimed their members should be exempt, the White House said no.

Your story isn't about reality, it's about a Republican lawmaker's stunt to pass a bill for a problem that doesn't exist.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ion-96793.html

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Spence, from your very own post...

"the White House looked at several ways to make the union plans eligible for subsidies "

In other words, the White House wanted to pay off the unions for political suport, but try as they might, they couldn't come up with a way to do it.

Spence, what does it say to you, that Obama wanted to give the unions this kickback. Why does Obama want to give $$ to those who work in a union, but not give $$ to someone doing the same job, for the same pay, with the same healthcare, but in a non-unionized capacity? Spence, what does it say to you, that if Obama had his way, everyone who voted for Romney would subsidize those who voted for him? You're OK with that?

Obama sincerely wanted to pay them off, his advisors told him that it wouldn't fly. And Spence sees this as something we should praise Obama for.

Now, that is an apologist...
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:06 AM   #2
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In other words, the White House wanted to pay off the unions for political suport, but try as they might, they couldn't come up with a way to do it.
No, you still have it backwards. The unions came to the Administration asking for easement. The Treasury department looked at their claim and denied it.

Your subconscious bias is so strong you don't even know when it's happening.

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Old 09-28-2013, 01:43 PM   #3
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No, you still have it backwards. The unions came to the Administration asking for easement. The Treasury department looked at their claim and denied it.

Your subconscious bias is so strong you don't even know when it's happening.

-spence
From the article you posted, Spence...

""the White House looked at several ways to make the union plans eligible for subsidies "

Spence, maybe it was the Treasury Dept who told the unions "no". That was after the White House attempted to find a way to give the unions what they wanted.

You are acting as if the immediate answer was "no, that wouldn't be fair". If that were the case, I would commend the President for that. But according to you own source, the White House wanted to give the unions a kickback. And it's that fact, which clearly shows that Obama, despite his campaign promises, wants to give kickbacks to his political allies.
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Old 09-28-2013, 03:10 PM   #4
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From the article you posted, Spence...

""the White House looked at several ways to make the union plans eligible for subsidies "

Spence, maybe it was the Treasury Dept who told the unions "no". That was after the White House attempted to find a way to give the unions what they wanted.

You are acting as if the immediate answer was "no, that wouldn't be fair". If that were the case, I would commend the President for that. But according to you own source, the White House wanted to give the unions a kickback. And it's that fact, which clearly shows that Obama, despite his campaign promises, wants to give kickbacks to his political allies.
Now you're just making things up.

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Old 09-28-2013, 05:02 PM   #5
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Now you're just making things up.

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Again Spence, a direct quote from the link that you posted...

"the White House looked at several ways to make the union plans eligible for subsidies "

What did I make up, exactly? Please be specific now...
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:11 AM   #6
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What did I make up, exactly? Please be specific now...
Jim, Spence is a Bob Dylan fan when it comes to answering questions-

"the answer my friend is blowin in the wind, the answer is blowin in the wind"

Still gotta luv the guy though.

" Choose Life "
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:18 AM   #7
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Jim, Spence is a Bob Dylan fan when it comes to answering questions-

"the answer my friend is blowin in the wind, the answer is blowin in the wind"

Still gotta luv the guy though.
Absolutely, I luv the guy.

What I don't luv, is that his vote counts the same as mine...
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