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Old 03-11-2014, 08:42 AM   #61
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I am not thrilled about a commercial season on stripers.... BUT, saying a guy can't commercially fish for Bass because it is not his sole (or major) source of income is kinda... well.... BS.

What if I wanted to sell some lures part time to recoup some of my money spent on supplies? (and paid the taxes, etc...) Would that be OK? Surely it is not my full time job, but I can't see where that would be considered unethical, immoral or illegal.

And as a full disclaimer.... I have no intention or desire to commercial fish OR sell lures to make some spare Cheddar.
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Old 03-11-2014, 08:46 AM   #62
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Joe but you're comparing selling a natural resource for supplemental income to selling extra plugs on the side to do the same thing. The plugs can be rebuilt, the fishery may not. Seems like apples to oranges to me.

And I think it's a joke the rec harvest wasn't cut in half as well...
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Old 03-11-2014, 08:53 AM   #63
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Joe but you're comparing selling a natural resource for supplemental income to selling extra plugs on the side to do the same thing. The plugs can be rebuilt, the fishery may not. Seems like apples to oranges to me.

And I think it's a joke the rec harvest wasn't cut in half as well...

No I get it... and just to be clear, I'd like to see limits SLASHED across the board.

I just fell that legislating WHO can sell commercially is against the freedoms I believe in.

PS. I got your VM, I'll give you a call.

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Old 03-11-2014, 08:55 AM   #64
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Gotcha.

Ok thanks bud no rush...
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Old 03-11-2014, 09:08 AM   #65
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LOL Well another way to help is to put an age limit to the permits. either 16 or 18 yrs of age that way the 6 yr olds that sell a full permit amount every day will be out of the equation or the family members that never step foot on a boat.I still wonder how many fish are sold under names that never even fish. for those nay sayer don't bother seen it an reported it. like the guys photoed goin to the draggers at night loadin up on stripers an splittin the take with the draggers.
The point is people doin the illegal stuff make the issue what it is. Commercials don't police their own.Don't want any reductions and fight to take more n more.Are there abuses in rod n reel yup. look at the Canal at times.2 -3-4- thousand fish killed an many taking more than the 2 allowed.
As far as complainin about plug sellers well thats an easy fix. Shut down the hook making an auto industries. No hooks no fishing,no cars well its a long walk or bike ride to look at the water LOL
Never yet seen where less than.001 percent should have more thanthe other 99.999 percent. 1 fish 36 inches for all isn't bad one fish 28 in isn't bad. in Maine it's been 1 fish for a very long time. Part of the reason for the slot limit was to give people a chance at something to take home due to the overfishing of larger fish killin the northern migration.
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Old 03-11-2014, 10:04 AM   #66
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Its not a good day unless you take multiple limits.

This will stop most of the gang who moves to chatham for the duration of the event. It is not worth it for one day and 10 fish.

IMO The focus of the DMF is in the wrong area. They are so screwed up I don't think this is a fixable any longer. Have to blow up the entire infrastructure and re-build it from the ground up.
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The problem when a government group manages a species or multiple species is that is in their best interest to keep the species in constant crisis to stay funded. Imagine if one day cormorants were no longer protected and there was a bounty put on them. (An invasive non-native bird btw). Winter flounder stocks would rebound. Imagine a massive dogfish cull.. Cod stocks would probably rebound. Imagine a seal cull.... Inshore bass fishing on the cape would come back. Imagine temporary shifting MPA's... Ground fish habitat would be restored. But.. Instead these agencies shuffle limits and manage their shell game...

Do you people actually think That the government would fix something to the point that they would have to lay off half of their work force because they fixed the problem that they are assigned to solve? I don't think so.
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I try to keep an open mind about all of this- the comm guys shouldn't be shut out, but they also shouldn't be entitled to 8 or 10 times the recreational guys' take.....

and the $30 license fee is a joke. DMF should raise it so its in line with what every other professional license costs... dental assistants, nurses physical therapists, whatever. licenses for those "professions" are typically $100/year (or more).... "professional bass fishermen" should have the same fee.
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Old 03-11-2014, 05:12 PM   #69
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I try to keep an open mind about all of this- the comm guys shouldn't be shut out, but they also shouldn't be entitled to 8 or 10 times the recreational guys' take.....

and the $30 license fee is a joke. DMF should raise it so its in line with what every other professional license costs... dental assistants, nurses physical therapists, whatever. licenses for those "professions" are typically $100/year (or more).... "professional bass fishermen" should have the same fee.
They do a boat permit costs $135, it's just the endorsement to fish for stripers that costs $30
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Old 03-12-2014, 08:52 AM   #70
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. And how many times would a shore fisherman catch 15 fish, more then likely zero times, I do believe the shore fisher can maybe somedays catch 5 keepers.

You my friend need to find a new place to fish
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:50 PM   #72
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Get your wetsuit registered...its already got its own on board bathroom and food storage area in addition to a live bait tank...heck it even has a bow light.

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