Geeez ,, no talk of this , Big breaking story today ..

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

And didn't Hillary say in her "what difference does it make" speach something along the lines of .... "as long as we find out who did it, why and how to prevent it from happening again".

She did say that, and it makes her statement less putrid. But it still matters, because justice always matters, and justice always requires truth, does it not? I'm sure it matters to the families of the victims, to know what actually happened. Then again, she's not a huge fan of the truth, is she?

Hilary: I got off the plane, and immediately came under sniper fire. I had to DIVE! into a Hum-vee!

Reporter: Here is a video of the scene. You are smiling and waving, and casually getting into the vehicle. No gunshots.

Bill Clinton: She was tired, so she's not responsible for what she says.

Spence: Good enough for me! Hoo-ray!

In other words (assuming Bill was being honest, which he wasn't), when she's tired, she becomes delusional, unable to differentiate between reality and fantasy. And she wants to be President? Are you kidding me? I think Presidents need to be able to display some rationality even when tired.

Tell me I'm wrong?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Tell me I'm wrong?

How many time have you brought that up and yet you aren't concerned with either the lie (or the bungling stupidity) that got us into the Iraq war that caused over 4,500 soldiers death? Does the word justice ever come up in regards to this issue? Don't the families of the soldiers deserve to know?

How many embassies where attacked during the Bush admin?

So let's have more hearings. We don't have the truth yet bc the Reps aren't satisfied and think there is a conspiracy that they'll soon uncover.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

How many time have you brought that up and yet you aren't concerned with either the lie (or the bungling stupidity) that got us into the Iraq war that caused over 4,500 soldiers death? Does the word justice ever come up in regards to this issue? Don't the families of the soldiers deserve to know?

How many embassies where attacked during the Bush admin?

So let's have more hearings. We don't have the truth yet bc the Reps aren't satisfied and think there is a conspiracy that they'll soon uncover.

"you aren't concerned with either the lie (or the bungling stupidity) that got us into the Iraq war that caused over 4,500 soldiers death?"

If it was a lie or stupidity, then the list of liars and idiots includes Hilary Clinton (also Senators Biden, Edwards, Boxer, Reid, Schumer, Feinstein, all thos eneocons!), who voted to invade Iraq and who said that Iraq had WMDs. Paul, I was there, so it impacted me more than I bet it did you. But a lot of smart, decent people reached the same conclusion. Husseain signed a treaty ending the first war, and one of the terms wa sthat he give inspectors access. He kept kicking them out. What do you do in that case? Nothing?

"Don't the families of the soldiers deserve to know? "

Know WHAT? The vast majority of professional intelligence analysts reached th esame conclusion. It turned out to be wrong. That doesn't make thos epeople evil. Intelligence, unfortunately, is not an exact science.

"How many embassies where attacked during the Bush admin?"

In how many cases did the ambassador ask for more security and get denied? In how many cases did Bush cover up what happened? I don't blame a President for every bad thing that hapens, you can't control everything. But there's evidence here of some incompetence and dishonesty. I'm sorry if that gets you worked up.

"So let's have more hearings"

Yes, let's. If they don't shed light on anything new, we can at least deny the right-wing nuts the ability to say that Obama wasn't forthcoming.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Yes, let's. If they don't shed light on anything new, we can at least deny the right-wing nuts the ability to say that Obama wasn't forthcoming.

This whole mess could be cleared up in an hour if Obama and Clinton went before the American people and explained what happened while releasing all the documents pertaining to it , without having Judicial Watch sue under the Freedom of Information Act to get them.

Ahh the transparency.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by justplugit

This whole mess could be cleared up in an hour if Obama and Clinton went before the American people and explained what happened while releasing all the documents pertaining to it , without having Judicial Watch sue under the Freedom of Information Act to get them.

Ahh the transparency.

It's been like that this whole presidency. Every investigation . Now the Democrats are going to try to block and boycott any investigation the house has. Nothing to hide then be open and
forthright ..... That's what Spence and Paul want .
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

It's been like that this whole presidency. Every investigation . Now the Democrats are going to try to block and boycott any investigation the house has. Nothing to hide then be open and
forthright ..... That's what Spence and Paul want .
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Is this the fourth or fifth House investigation? I've lost count...
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Is this the fourth or fifth House investigation? I've lost count...
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It's just beginning too
It takes time to fight corruption and incompetence of this magnitude
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Is this the fourth or fifth House investigation? I've lost count...
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There have been more hearings than there have been arrests, right?

I do hope this is the last one. Let's make it so open and thorough, that no rational person could suggest we need to re-visit. There are some very moderate Republicans like McCain and Graham, 2 guys who are not party hacks nor are they obstructionist (they have voted for Democratic judicial nominees, more than I can say for some right-wing nuts) who want these hearings.

Let's get it over with.