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05-29-2014, 08:14 PM
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05-30-2014, 05:49 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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I don't think the species is in trouble. The large YOY class from 2 years ago means there are significant fish in the pipeline to "sustain" a fishery.
What is happening is that since this YOY class will soon reach breeding age ASMFC has no reason to protect the remaining large fish. MakoMike would even argue that they are required by law to "utilize" these large fish and be sure they are caught and killed so as to satisfy the "Maximum Sustainable Yield" doctrine.
Since there have been a run of poor year classes most catch and kill fishing effort has been on large fish and that population is disappearing fast. This will only get worse because the ASMFC, driven by a predominance of members who favor continued maximal harvest (both recreational and commercial) over the quality of the recreational fishery, continues to take steps to perpetuate that harvest.
The mandate (and composition) of the ASMFC just does not serve the purposes of those who want a quality fishery (i.e., a widespread population distribution and large fish size). Striped bass management is a compromise and right now the interests of those who benefit from dead fish are prioritized over those who benefit from protecting live fish. Such interests are entrenched and unlikely to change. Once the large fish are gone they will lower size limits to allow harvest of the upcoming 2012YOY class.
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05-30-2014, 07:27 AM
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this is how the goverment has control of the surf guys  |
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05-30-2014, 07:47 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Cape Cod, MA
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Originally Posted by numbskull
I don't think the species is in trouble. The large YOY class from 2 years ago means there are significant fish in the pipeline to "sustain" a fishery.
What is happening is that since this YOY class will soon reach breeding age ASMFC has no reason to protect the remaining large fish. MakoMike would even argue that they are required by law to "utilize" these large fish and be sure they are caught and killed so as to satisfy the "Maximum Sustainable Yield" doctrine.
Since there have been a run of poor year classes most catch and kill fishing effort has been on large fish and that population is disappearing fast. This will only get worse because the ASMFC, driven by a predominance of members who favor continued maximal harvest (both recreational and commercial) over the quality of the recreational fishery, continues to take steps to perpetuate that harvest.
The mandate (and composition) of the ASMFC just does not serve the purposes of those who want a quality fishery (i.e., a widespread population distribution and large fish size). Striped bass management is a compromise and right now the interests of those who benefit from dead fish are prioritized over those who benefit from protecting live fish. Such interests are entrenched and unlikely to change. Once the large fish are gone they will lower size limits to allow harvest of the upcoming 2012YOY class.
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You absolutely nailed this numbskull. That YOY class from two years ago was obviously a good thing for the fish and the future, but I fear it may have put a damper on any type of smart conservation tactics that may have been on the horizon. |
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05-31-2014, 08:37 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Originally Posted by Sea Flat
You absolutely nailed this numbskull. That YOY class from two years ago was obviously a good thing for the fish and the future, but I fear it may have put a damper on any type of smart conservation tactics that may have been on the horizon.
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How many of those fish will make it to spawning age, considering that MD netters can legally harvest 18" fish?
Recs can also keep two 18" fish a day most of the year, too.
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06-01-2014, 11:11 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Originally Posted by Mike P
How many of those fish will make it to spawning age, considering that MD netters can legally harvest 18" fish?
Recs can also keep two 18" fish a day most of the year, too.
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I heard it was dropped to 16" this year 
DZ, that certainly sounds like the present.  |
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