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09-20-2014, 06:39 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
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Raven,
A blank 'point blank' to the temple will kill people too, esp a kid, geez.
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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09-21-2014, 08:08 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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Beamie
the suggestion for using blanks
was to see if a kid could control the recoil
of a single shot.
if they could not control it then they have no business
firing the weapon in full Auto with live ammo...
was my point.... Geesch
frank, i'm surprised that your Still Facebooking 
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09-24-2014, 03:26 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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Blanks are #^&#^&#^&#^&ing terrible... they make firearms filthy! And at times do more harm than good. Ask Bruce lee's kid how safe blanks are... Fools and their foolish suggestions of blanks...
The "issues" that have arisen with younger or lighter weight shooters of fully automatic weapons is muzzle climb and nothing more.
Sadly, they are'nt being supported in the proper form as to deter muzzle climb and thus the accidents.
If you've never shot full auto, you havent experienced muzzle climb.
I will now attempt to translate muzzle climb into kale salad yuppie:
Remember when you learned to drive mommys 5 speed vehicle, and it would buck like crazy when you shifted/clutched in poorly?
As long as your foot was on that clutch the vehicle kept buck'ing because you kept clutching in (inadvertently) Your whole body was getting jerked back and forth in that seat but you could not pull your foot off the clutch. But as soon as you were able to pull your foot away from that clutch the buck'ing stopped...
booger hook = clutch, trapped movement is the barrel rising, stopping= empty magazine The firearm just sort of runs away on them, until its empty or they can control the climb of the barrel.
The training issues are coming from a stand point of moving too quickly. YEAHHH full auto lets dump a whole magazine... NO
You load various magazine: 3 rounds, 3 rounds, 5 rounds, 5 rounds
load, make safe, make hot, clear range, hot, shoot single then auto 2 remove mag, make weapon safe repeat
basically work your way up to a full 20,30,100round beta mag All the while being safe, and learning to control that weapon as it begins to get rockin' n rollin'
unfortunately these kids are being handed a full mag and told to let er rip and they havent developed the control to dump full magazines.
Last edited by ThrowingTimber; 09-24-2014 at 03:36 PM..
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Domination takes full concentration..
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09-24-2014, 09:25 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThrowingTimber
Fools and their foolish suggestions of blanks...
The "issues" that have arisen with younger or lighter weight shooters of fully automatic weapons is muzzle climb and nothing more.
Sadly, they are'nt being supported in the proper form as to deter muzzle climb and thus the accidents.
If you've never shot full auto, you haven't experienced muzzle climb.
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Good analogy Victor....
When you try to rationalize the why's of a tragedy your willing to come up with virtually ANY "idea" to prevent further disaster.
Personally, i was trained about gun safety by a man who blew his own leg off climbing over a barbed wire fence and have never forgot his words of wisdom.
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09-24-2014, 05:56 PM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
the suggestion for using blanks
was to see if a kid could control the recoil
of a single shot.
if they could not control it then they have no business
firing the weapon in full Auto with live ammo...
was my point.... Geesch
frank, i'm surprised that your Still Facebooking 
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Craig, I signed off facebook about three weeks ago, and just reactivated three days ago, because I am going to the vineyard. Need fb on the island to stay on top of things. October 20th, I will deactivate until April 1st. I just get too wrapped up with what is going on with everyone.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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