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02-23-2015, 01:02 AM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
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ANYONE who refuses to admit that the striped bass population is in decline ( in major part) due to overfishing, and wants to continue keeping fish at the same rate.
Thats my answer to your question, but i told you in another thread im done going back and forth with you. I am set that theres a problem , youre set that there isnt. Done.
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02-23-2015, 07:47 AM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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Originally Posted by ivanputski
ANYONE who refuses to admit that the striped bass population is in decline ( in major part) due to overfishing, and wants to continue keeping fish at the same rate.
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Everyone on this board agrees on a 25% reduction. 
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02-23-2015, 08:53 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 4,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
ANYONE who refuses to admit that the striped bass population is in decline ( in major part) due to overfishing, and wants to continue keeping fish at the same rate.
Thats my answer to your question, but i told you in another thread im done going back and forth with you. I am set that theres a problem , youre set that there isnt. Done.
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I considerate one somebody who forms opinions about other categories that fish for stripe bass without ever being in their shoes it feels to keep an open mind because they think they know better than everybody else.
FYI every category is making adjustments.
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02-23-2015, 09:17 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
Posts: 2,885
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Originally Posted by buckman
they think they know better than everybody else.
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Not everybody else. Just a tiny, but very influential faction and the regulators they manipulate.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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02-23-2015, 09:43 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,574
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The reason I posted this old column was to give historical perspective on how various states approached the issue and just how contentious it was. I remember going to this meeting and many, many, others. I spoke often with Dawson and Othote about the issue. Trap fisherman George Mendonsa was unapproachable, and at one point he and other commercial striped bass representatives on the council ran afoul of state “conflict of interest” laws but were later cleared. One of the major differences between then and now was that the entire rec community united for more conservative regs. For the record I don’t believe current striped bass fishing to be as bad as it was back then – yet. But I’m convinced that if fishermen back then had the benefit of today’s fish finding electronics technology and social media, then the bass would have taken even longer to recover or may not have recovered at all.
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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02-23-2015, 10:24 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
Posts: 2,885
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Originally Posted by DZ
For the record I don’t believe current striped bass fishing to be as bad as it was back then – yet.
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It isn't as bad, yet. That is why we need major action now. I was a kid during the moratorium days. I spent summers on the upper Chesapeake. My dad talked about how they used to catch stripers on the bay in the 50, 60's, and 70's. That was as foreign to me as the concept of elk being common in the east 250 years ago. The first stripers we saw on the bay post collapse was around 1987 and all of the adults were elated.
My uncle is still on the bay from May-Nov and he reports that the past fall was good. This is always pretty much exclusively a schoolie fishery and the 2011 class is strong. There is a chance to prevent a collapse and that is the point. Reactive management is almost universally ineffective. If that 2011 class gets hammered in a couple of years and the big fish continue to be picked off by the boats, it is over.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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