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View Poll Results: 1 or 2 fish per client on RI Charter Boats
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I am a Rhode Island resident and I propose 1 fish per client on RI Charter Boats
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I am a Rhode Island resident and I propose 2 fish per client on RI Charter Boats
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I am NOT a Rhode Island resident and I propose 1 fish per client on RI Charter Boats
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I am NOT a Rhode Island resident and I propose 2 fish per client on RI Charter Boats
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02-23-2015, 02:40 PM
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The 25% reduction of striped bass from the recs have a 100% chance of success (1 bass from 2 bass) and the for hire 25% reduction has a 0% probability of success (2 bass before 2 bass proposed) and Collectively the probability would be 50% ( 100% probability recs + 0% probability "for hires" divide by 2 is 50% probability
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02-23-2015, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Redsoxticket
The 25% reduction of striped bass from the recs have a 100% chance of success (1 bass from 2 bass) and the for hire 25% reduction has a 0% probability of success (2 bass before 2 bass proposed) and Collectively the probability would be 50% ( 100% probability recs + 0% probability "for hires" divide by 2 is 50% probability
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If it was 2 @ 28 inches your theory might hold water. Would your probability of catching one from shore stay the same if it was 1 @ 33 inches?
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02-23-2015, 10:21 PM
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Would your probability of catching one from shore stay the same if it was 1 @ 33 inches?
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Yes it would stay the same.
catching, and keeping are 2 very different things.
The probability of catching a 33" fish is still the same.
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02-24-2015, 08:32 AM
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Interesting results - more consistent than I thought we would see.
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02-24-2015, 09:30 AM
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Yes it would stay the same.
catching, and keeping are 2 very different things.
The probability of catching a 33" fish is still the same.
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Sounds like you could have a job in fisheries management 😂
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02-24-2015, 10:07 AM
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Sounds like you could have a job in fisheries management 😂
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Did you graduate from high school ?
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02-24-2015, 10:50 AM
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Did you graduate from high school ?
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We catch far more fish in the 28 to 33 slot then fish over 33. Why
Is that so hard to grasp ? Dope maybe ?
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02-24-2015, 11:36 AM
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Would your probability of catching one from shore stay the same if it was 1 @ 33 inches?
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OK one more time, I'll try to be a little more clear with my common sense here.
It does not matter whether the limit to keep a bass is 20 inches or 30 inches, the probability stays the same of your chances of catching a 33 inch bass. Just like it is the same to catch a 50 pounder no matter what the legal length is to keep one.
Fisheries management manages to have maximum yeild, I think we would all benefit if they managed for maximum sustainable population at a diverse spread of age and size so that there is not some kind of huge void of let's just say for instance hardly any 20-25 pound fish or not enough 32" fish for example.
I have common sense, not a fisheries management degree, I'll stick to making boxes.
Whatever RI does, it does. We will have to live with it for 3 years.
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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02-24-2015, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
OK one more time, I'll try to be a little more clear with my common sense here.
It does not matter whether the limit to keep a bass is 20 inches or 30 inches, the probability stays the same of your chances of catching a 33 inch bass. Just like it is the same to catch a 50 pounder no matter what the legal length is to keep one.
Fisheries management manages to have maximum yeild, I think we would all benefit if they managed for maximum sustainable population at a diverse spread of age and size so that there is not some kind of huge void of let's just say for instance hardly any 20-25 pound fish or not enough 32" fish for example.
I have common sense, not a fisheries management degree, I'll stick to making boxes.
Whatever RI does, it does. We will have to live with it for 3 years.
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I Agree with what you are saying but that was not my point and I believe you know that.
If you could only keep a fish 33 inches or above your chances of bringing home a fish to eat are a lot less then if you can bring home a fish 28 inches and above. That's just speaking from my experience maybe you guys are better at targeting the big fish.
I hope that is clear.
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02-24-2015, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
I Agree with what you are saying but that was not my point and I believe you know that.
If you could only keep a fish 33 inches or above your chances of bringing home a fish to eat are a lot less then if you can bring home a fish 28 inches and above. That's just speaking from my experience maybe you guys are better at targeting the big fish.
I hope that is clear.
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I would say my chance of catching a 28" fish is a tiny bit better than a 33 but I don't chase those. Probably the same for most here. Coastwide, might make a little more difference but not drastically.
That said different year classes being missing / wiped out will make that more hit or miss as you drill down. The larger you make the minimum size, the more year classes you protect a little longer.
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02-24-2015, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
I would say my chance of catching a 28" fish is a tiny bit better than a 33 but I don't chase those. Probably the same for most here. Coastwide, might make a little more difference but not drastically.
That said different year classes being missing / wiped out will make that more hit or miss as you drill down. The larger you make the minimum size, the more year classes you protect a little longer.
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The good news is that in our area there seems to be more fish under 33" I guess that's why the charter boats in my area figure the 2@33 is going to be a significant reduction in fish killed . Sure there will be good days but there will not be full limits on most and in my opinion ( I do own a charter boat ) there could be less fish on some days then there would be with 1@28 being the for hire regulation .
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02-24-2015, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
The good news is that in our area there seems to be more fish under 33" I guess that's why the charter boats in my area figure the 2@33 is going to be a significant reduction in fish killed . Sure there will be good days but there will not be full limits on most and in my opinion ( I do own a charter boat ) there could be less fish on some days then there would be with 1@28 being the for hire regulation .
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Where do you live? I see most Charters getting more than 2, more than 32". To keep one & C&R the rest goes in the right direction.
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