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Old 10-02-2015, 01:14 AM   #1
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In Chicago and DC, very few people own guns, yet gun violence (measured per citizen) is out of sight. In the Dakotas, almost everyone owns a gun, and there is almost no gun violence.

Conclusion: some gun legislation might help. But we also need to figure out how to get people in DC and Chicago to behave more like the people in the Dakotas, who don't hurt one another despite owning guns. We need to make it easier to commit the mentally ill. And we need to have a conversation about the violence our kids get bombarded with on TV and in the movies. But the liberals are beholden to Hollywood just like the Republicans are beholden to the NRA. Plenty of blame here.

For Obama to immediately go on a tirade about guns without discussing the other factors, is repugnant.
Aside from making a ridiculous comparison with an inner city vs rural comparison, your thoughts are 100% the same as Bernie Sander's statement that he made today about the shooting.
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Aside from making a ridiculous comparison with an inner city vs rural comparison, your thoughts are 100% the same as Bernie Sander's statement that he made today about the shooting.
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Nebe, please tell me why it was ridiculous? Why is it that in some places, people can own guns and never think of hurting anybody, but in other places, a higher % of citizens want to kill others? Are you saying that living in the city makes one automatically more prone to homicidal behavior? If you moved to Chicago, you wouldn't be a murderer. If people in Chicago had the same values as the people in the Dakotas, crime would go down. And values are a choice, they aren't predetermined.

Maybe Sanders got one right.
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