Another college mass murder.. ho-hum, who cares.

[Sea Dangles]

So the racist blames JayZ...
Was the shooter black?
Is Oregon inner city?

The poor folks in Charlston were actually in church as Jim instructed and even that did not prevent a tragedy. Shocking

This is more a mental illness than it is a gun problem. People like Ted K don't need guns to make an impact.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

So the racist blames JayZ...
Was the shooter black?
Is Oregon inner city?

The poor folks in Charlston were actually in church as Jim instructed and even that did not prevent a tragedy. Shocking

This is more a mental illness than it is a gun problem. People like Ted K don't need guns to make an impact.
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Dangles, this shooter wasn't black, you got me.

Last weekend for the second weekend in a row, there were 50+ shootings in Chicago (what color do you suppose most of the shooters were?), where very few people own guns. There were likely none in the Dakotas, where huge numbers of people own guns.

So instead of mocking people who live in the Dakotas as bitter folks who cling to guns and religion because they are deranged, maybe our horse's ass president might instead suggest that the peoplke in the Dakotas are on to something, and maybe we should emulate their views towards their neighbors, instead of making fun of them.

These mass-shootings are predominantly carried out by whites., They also are a tiny speck of the gun deaths in our country, the vast majority is garden variety violence, the disproportionate majority of which is perpetrated by blacks. Does that make me a racist because I can see when one number is larger than another number?

It's not about race, so much as it's about culture. But in this country, blacks and hispanics are more likely to embrace the gangster rapper culture than whites are. I'm sorry if that fact spits in the face of your beliefs, but it's still a fact.

As you said, this particular case, is more about mental illness than guns. But if you look at the totality of gun violence in this country, it's pretty clear where the problem lies, and with whom. We need to figure out the "why". And it's not Sarah Palin's fault.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

The poor folks in Charlston were actually in church as Jim instructed and even that did not prevent a tragedy. Shocking

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You're implying that going to Church is therefore a bad idea. Yeah, that makes sense. Ho wmany people get killed on the highways every single day? Are cars therefore a bad idea?

Dangles, here is my racism at work. See the attached chart. In DC, 3.6% of the population owns guns, and there are 16.5 gun deaths per 100k residents. In South Dakota, 56.6% of the residents own guns, yet there are only 1.0 gun deaths per 100k residents. Personal behavior is a choice, we have free will (ignoring these rare shootings by the deranged, I'm talking baout the other 95% of gun violence, which is gang related, drug related, etc). Why do people in the Dakotas freely choose to leave each other alone, while people in Chicago and DC freely choose to shoot each other? The answer is the culture that the citizens in those places choose to embrace.

I don't believe Obama helps things, when he makes fun of people who live in the Dakotas, and makes kissy faces at Jay Z and Beyonce.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_vi...tates_by_state

[Fly Rod]

where was your president last week when 14 people were killed in chicago?.....chicago has one of strictest gun laws in the country but yet has the most gun violence in the country....we need strict punishment for illegal gun carries that commit gun crimes.....democratic liberals keep targeting the legal armed citizens with their gun laws......and your president keeps comparing australia with the u.s. .......aussie land only has a population of about 23-24 million people......other countries such as mexico has a much larger gun problem.....germany, france and united kingdom have strict gun laws but gun violence still prevails....united kingdom had to allow their bobbies to carry weapons because of gun violence.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

where was your president last week when 14 people were killed in chicago?.....chicago has one of strictest gun laws in the country but yet has the most gun violence in the country....we need strict punishment for illegal gun carries that commit gun crimes.....democratic liberals keep targeting the legal armed citizens with their gun laws......and your president keeps comparing australia with the u.s. .......aussie land only has a population of about 23-24 million people......other countries such as mexico has a much larger gun problem.....germany, france and united kingdom have strict gun laws but gun violence still prevails....united kingdom had to allow their bobbies to carry weapons because of gun violence.

Right, because Australia is comprable. They have as many poor blacks as we do, and they share an open border with Mexico, right??
Absurd to compare.

It's time to be honest (Nebe was admirably brave). There is a culture embraced by a large segment of the black population in this country, and it's not what you see on "The Cosby Show". Those blacks that do embrace "The Cosby Show" culture., are called sellouts and Uncle Toms by liberals, just ask Clarence Thomas. Whites who embrace that culture are called bitter folks who cling to guns and religion, and that's from our President's mouth!!

[Fly Rod]

ABSURB!!......come on jim, your president is comparing a nation of over 300 million to a population to a population of 24 million, thats absurb......that is like comparing DETROIT population over 700 thou to my city of 28 thou.....detroit has about 500 gun crimes a year we have none....so what is your point?