Is this true??

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I think his 10B claim has been shot down. He also inherited a support structure that influenced his ability to make that money work.

I'm not sure if that says he's successful or just not self destructive.

Here's the real issue. I was talking to my son today about what Trump brings to the table that makes him want to be a better American. His response, nothing, he's kind of annoying. Didn't he say something mean about someone's Mexican wife?

Exactly.

It's all on how you're raised . I was raised by Roman Catholic Irish Democrats . They all vote Republican now .
You need to turn MSNBC off the TV at home
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

It's all on how you're raised . I was raised by Roman Catholic Irish Democrats . They all vote Republican now .
You need to turn MSNBC off the TV at home
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Morning Joe is about the only MSNBC I watch at home...
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Morning Joe is about the only MSNBC I watch at home...
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So where do you get your news, from the North Korea TV station?

I get mine from watching Hee Haw re-runs.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

It's all on how you're raised . I was raised by Roman Catholic Irish Democrats . They all vote Republican now .
You need to turn MSNBC off the TV at home
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Bingo. If you want an idea of how the Democratic party has changed (radicalized) in the last 50 years, look at the party agenda throgh the eyes of a Catholic. In my parents' time, it was assumed that Catholics would vote Democrat. A Catholic was elected President as a Democrat, for Pete's sake! Granted, he wasn't what you would call a model Catholic (what with the affairs, and the mafia hits and all...)...but can you imagine a Catholic running for President as a Democrat today? The Democrats, at the national level, absolutely despise Catholicism. The Catholic catechism is unchanged during that period. What happened is that the Democrats embraced San Francisco-style liberal ideology.

So today, democrats have "progressed" to the point where it's bourgeoise to say that boys should use the boys' locker room and girls should use the girls' locker room. To Democrats, only Archie Bunker still clings to such neanderthalic, hateful bigotry.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

...but can you imagine a Catholic running for President as a Democrat today? The Democrats, at the national level, absolutely despise Catholicism. The Catholic catechism is unchanged during that period. What happened is that the Democrats embraced San Francisco-style liberal ideology.

You mean like VP Joe Biden or Martin O'Malley?

According to Pew, a majority of Catholic voters supported Gore, Kerry and Obama twice in the Presidential elections.

Additionally, right now there are nearly as many Dem Catholics as Rep's in the House (68-70) and a majority Dem Catholic in the Senate (15-11).

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

You mean like VP Joe Biden or Martin O'Malley?

According to Pew, a majority of Catholic voters supported Gore, Kerry and Obama twice in the Presidential elections.

Additionally, right now there are nearly as many Dem Catholics as Rep's in the House (68-70) and a majority Dem Catholic in the Senate (15-11).

Sorry, allow me to clarify...imagine if a Catholic, who wasn't deserving of excommunication for being pro-abortion (therefore being anti-Catholic) ran for President.

I'm not talking about phonies who call themselves Catholic on Sunday because they want that vote, then go to pro-abortion rallies on Monday because they also want that vote.

You cannot be Catholic and be pro-abortion. You can call yourself Catholic and be pro-abortion, just as I can call myself a vegan but win a rib eating contest.

VP Joe Biden's executive branch has been the subject of several suits on behalf of the Catholic Church (another one, from Little Sisters Of The Poor, is at the Supreme Court now). I forgot what a swell Catholic he is that he has been sued by the church. He's a disgrace to his church.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I'm not talking about phonies who call themselves Catholic on Sunday because they want that vote, then go to pro-abortion rallies on Monday because they also want that vote.

Martin O'Malley

- Attended a parish elementary in Bethesda, Md., and Jesuit-run Gonzaga College High School in Washington, D.C.
- Earned his undergraduate degree at the Catholic University of America in Washington
- He’s a pray-every-morning, church-every-Sunday (St. Francis of Assisi in Baltimore) believer who sent all four of his kids to Catholic schools.

i.e. Phony

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by spence

Martin O'Malley

- Attended a parish elementary in Bethesda, Md., and Jesuit-run Gonzaga College High School in Washington, D.C.
- Earned his undergraduate degree at the Catholic University of America in Washington
- He’s a pray-every-morning, church-every-Sunday (St. Francis of Assisi in Baltimore) believer who sent all four of his kids to Catholic schools.

i.e. Phony

Jim and I went around on this previously; apparently (and I didn't know the dogma well enough), being pro-choice is grounds for ex-communication.

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Jim and I went around on this previously; apparently (and I didn't know the dogma well enough), being pro-choice is grounds for ex-communication.

Have they?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Martin O'Malley

- Attended a parish elementary in Bethesda, Md., and Jesuit-run Gonzaga College High School in Washington, D.C.
- Earned his undergraduate degree at the Catholic University of America in Washington
- He’s a pray-every-morning, church-every-Sunday (St. Francis of Assisi in Baltimore) believer who sent all four of his kids to Catholic schools.

i.e. Phony

And what's O'Malley polling at, exactly?

Biden is a phony. He has routinely championed legislation that spits in the face of what he claims to be his religious beliefs. If you want to explain that with something other than "apples and oranges" be my guest. So do phonies like Nancy Pelosi.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Martin O'Malley

- Attended a parish elementary in Bethesda, Md., and Jesuit-run Gonzaga College High School in Washington, D.C.
- Earned his undergraduate degree at the Catholic University of America in Washington
- He’s a pray-every-morning, church-every-Sunday (St. Francis of Assisi in Baltimore) believer who sent all four of his kids to Catholic schools.

i.e. Phony

He's also pro abortion. Meaning, his beliefs are outside of what's allowed for Catholics.

So yes, phony.

Catholicism is made up of binding beliefs (have to go to Church, have to believe Jesus is the son of God), and non-binding beliefs (which are suggestions, but not mandatory, like saying the rosary and being opposed to the death penalty.

Opposition to abortion is a binding belief. You are not Catholic if you are pro-abortion. I can go to vegan meetings, I can say the vegan oath 10 times a day, I can do all kinds of things to outwardly appear like a vegan. But guess what Spence? If I eat steak, I'm not a vegan. It doesn't matter what else I do.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

You mean like VP Joe Biden or Martin O'Malley?

According to Pew, a majority of Catholic voters supported Gore, Kerry and Obama twice in the Presidential elections.

Additionally, right now there are nearly as many Dem Catholics as Rep's in the House (68-70) and a majority Dem Catholic in the Senate (15-11).

"a majority of Catholic voters supported Gore, Kerry and Obama twice in the Presidential elections."

A majority of people who identify as Catholics, as opposed to actually being Catholic, voted for those rabidly pro-abortion democrats. I don't know how many true Catholics voted for them. I'd guess zero true Catholics voted for them, but if you knew anything about the Catechism, you'd know that.

Again, I addressed your questions (tough, probing, and fair questions) head-on, as best as I could. Any chance you could show me the same courtesy?

How about telling me why Hilary's lies don't make her a liar, in your eyes? Give it a shot.