Obama, again with the cheap insults

[Nebe]

Tell that to your great grand children.
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[scottw]

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Originally Posted by Nebe View Post

“In fact, climate change is directly related to the growth of terrorism,” Bernie Sanders said during Saturday’s debate.

Eben...shouldn't this be the other way around? sounds like Bernie is saying that climate change is being caused by the growth of terrorism..

might want to clarify that as it could be an important distinction...need to know if we should combat climate change by fighting terrorism or combat terrorism by fighting climate change

[Jim in CT]

Nebe, if Bernie says that some ISIS fighters joined up due to economic desperation, I would bet he is correct. SOME of them. Not all, and certainly not leadership. As Scott said, this problem has been around a long time, way before Al Gore correctly concluded he could scam thoughtless lefties to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, by bleating about climate change.

The underlying motivation for these people is religious, it's not economic, and it's certainly not environmental.

Haven't heard one yet, yell out "Mother Nature Akhbar!"

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Nebe, if Bernie says that some ISIS fighters joined up due to economic desperation, I would bet he is correct.

This is actually a big problem, young Syrian men don't have jobs and are joining ISIS for a paycheck...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

This is actually a big problem, young Syrian men don't have jobs and are joining ISIS for a paycheck...

And you know this how? Do they have to disclose this on their ISIS job application?

If all they wanted was money, well now they have it. They have captured huge oil fields, some reports say ISIS is selling a million dollars of oil a day. If they took over the oil fields and then just focused on the oil business, one might make a case that this is all about economics. Not sure how machine-ginning 130 French folks, improves their economic outlook more than capturing oil fields does.

Desperate economic conditions might help in recruiting a few more foot soldiers. It's clearly not the underlying cause that they are trying to promote.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by scottw

you and Bernie act as though the problem just popped up recently and the rest of the left acts as though ISIS is the sole purveyor...

Ding, ding, ding. "Lets go kill Westerners because of Climate Change"

Originally Posted by Nebe

“In fact, climate change is directly related to the growth of terrorism,” Bernie Sanders said during Saturday’s debate. “And if we do not get our act together and listen to what the scientists say you’re going to see countries all over the world — this is what the CIA says — they’re going to be struggling over limited amounts of water, limited amounts of land to grow their crops. And you’re going to see all kinds of international conflict.”
Since the overwhelming majority of pundits and policymakers don’t understand the existential threat climate change poses, Sanders remarks were criticized, much as fellow presidential candidate Martin O’Malley’s were back in July. Yet for over three years, leading security and climate experts — and Syrians themselves — have made the connection between climate change and the Syrian civil war. Indeed, when a major peer-reviewed study came out on in March making this very case, Retired Navy Rear Admiral David Titley said it identifies “a pretty convincing climate fingerprint” for the Syrian drought.
Titley, a meteorologist who led the U.S. Navy’s Task Force on Climate Change when he was at the Pentagon, also said, “you can draw a very credible climate connection to this disaster we call ISIS right now.”
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Rear Admiral David Titley - never heard of her (just kidding - too opportune to pass up) . There are a lot of smart Natsec and Ex Navy folk saying that the current Navy is so far removed from the warrior spirit due to the SocialJustice revolution in the government, we better hope there is no real peer level war.