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Originally Posted by wdmso

If you never needed them(ID's) to Vote back in the day then why have the laws been changed? ( the voter fraud that dosn't exist?) and what party is driving the voter ID bus Bus

Back in the day, women couldn't vote, blacks couldn't vote, males under the age of 21 couldn't vote . . . and a whole lot of restrictions and requirements were imposed on those (basically free, white, male, and 21) who were allowed to vote. Hey, as Jim in Ct said, laws change. And I thought you were big on the necessity of the Constitution to change to suit the times--the living breathing thing.

And both parties drove the restrictions and requirements bus, including voter ID bus, at various times.

And voter fraud does exist. And it is not insignificant.

Voter ID Laws go back to 1950 when South Carolina became the first state to start requesting identification from voters at the polls. The identification document did not have to include a picture; any document with the name of the voter sufficed

Drivers licenses did not include a photo ID back then either. Most pocket ID's back then had only verbal descriptions. Technology made it easier to place photos on the ID's in the mid to late 1960's and 1970's.

it was ok then but now it's not

Progress has made it more feasible to include a photo on pocket ID's. Which makes them a better identification than what "was ok then". I know you are a firm believer in progress. Hey, maybe you could consider ID's as living and breathing things.

VOTING IS A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT, NOT A PRIVILEGE... and 2A guys use this argument GUN OWNERSHIP IS A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT, NOT A PRIVILEGE.. against gun registration

Gun ownership is specifically made a fundamental, unabridgeable right in the Constitution. Voting, as scottw pointed out, is not. States cannot deny voting because of race or sex but the prohibition of those specific restrictions implies that other restrictions can be imposed.

another example of supporting the constitution when convenient

Absolutely not so. As Spence would say, apples and oranges.

and if smells like a fish swims like one its probably a fish

Different fish smell and swim in different ways. The gun owning fish are not the same as the fish who vote. It may seem very fishy to you, but that's the way it is.

[scottw]

seems like a disproportionate number of democrats not only struggle to obtain something as simple as an id...a disproportionate number of democrats struggle to obtain a copy of the US Constitution for reference as well ..neither is a very high bar

not surprising that the no borders, citizens of the world, undocumented democrats crowd fight tooth and nail to ensure that everyone dead or alive, legal or illegal, registered or unregistered have the ability to cast a ballot

the slump in democrat turnout is likely a result of years of democrats registering anyone and everyone that they can shake out of the bushes, probably multiple times in multiple districts in order to swell the voter rolls......many of these folks may have found their way to the polls in recent years having been promised lots of free stuff and better lives in exchange for doing so......

this year I'm guessing they are realizing that despite dutifully electing and reelecting the givers of great things to the downtrodden....they've gotten nothing....their lives are no better....

and now they will be asked to go through the trouble of voting for one of the Democrat Walking Dead options of old white lunatics....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

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and now they will be asked to go through the trouble of voting for one of the Democrat Walking Dead options of old white lunatics....

Oh that's poetry, thanks!