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Old 10-10-2016, 01:04 PM   #1
Jim in CT
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They both have a demonstrable track record of treating women like garbage

again another false equivalency

Hillary comments are specific to singular women and specific events and know for years since the 90's.. at the time society did not see them as the same comment is seen to day 2016 .. but if she said the same today It would cause a fire storm..

Donalds latest comment are not Specific to a single women as were his Mr universe comments , they are general statement about Women in 2005 ... the general public was not aware of this position in 2005 but they are now 2016 and they see it in the light that society see's it by todays standards of decency and many take issue .. to locker room talk like that from a 60 year old

The bigger question I have is why theses issues were never exposed in the Republican primaries
"Hillary comments are specific to singular women "

Women who are victims of sexual assault, at the hands of her husband. Why is it better to insult a specific women, than it is to say "I can grope whoever I want".

Trump made fat comments about a specific woman. Liberals attacked him for it, I dare you to find a liberal who said "well, as long as his comments were specific to a singular woman, that's OK."

"at the time society did not see them as the same comment is seen to day 2016 "

Assault victims? We didn't know that assault victims deserve compassion in 1999? I think you are stretching like a contortionist to defend her...
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Old 10-10-2016, 01:46 PM   #2
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"Hillary comments are specific to singular women "

Women who are victims of sexual assault, at the hands of her husband. Why is it better to insult a specific women, than it is to say "I can grope whoever I want".

Trump made fat comments about a specific woman. Liberals attacked him for it, I dare you to find a liberal who said "well, as long as his comments were specific to a singular woman, that's OK."

"at the time society did not see them as the same comment is seen to day 2016 "

Assault victims? We didn't know that assault victims deserve compassion in 1999? I think you are stretching like a contortionist to defend her...

“trailer-trash.”bimbo failed cabaret singer towards women making claims against her husband... I guess you dont see her as a victim of Bill's deceit either ??

.. I Grab them by the P u s s y or I moved on her like a bitch, or I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.” “I did try and f--- her. She was married,”

yet you some how you can put these statements them in the same category that's amazing

I am far from defending her but theses things are not the same no matter how hard you try to say they are

Are these people also defending Hillary or do they see what I see?
Republicans Calling For Trump To Step Aside As Nominee

Sen. John Thune (South Dakota): Third highest ranking Republican in the Senate, previously said he would support the nominee
Sen. Mark Kirk (Illinois): Ran campaign ads distancing himself from Trump
Sen. Ben Sasse (Nebraska): Prominent "Never Trumper"
Sen. Deb Fischer (Nebraska): Withdrew previous endorsement
Sen. Mike Crapo (Idaho): Withdrew previous endorsement
Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (West Virginia): Said the "appropriate next step may be for him to reexamine his candidacy;" Withdrew previous endorsement
Sen. Dan Sullivan (Alaska): Withdrew previous endorsement
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (Alaska): Tweeted that Trump has "forfeited the right to be our party's nominee," Did not endorse Trump previously
Sen. Cory Gardner (Colorado): Withdrew previous endorsement
Sen. Jeff Flake (Arizona): Did not endorse Trump previously
Rep. Martha Roby (Alabama): Withdrew previous endorsement
Rep. Bradley Byrne (Alabama): Withdrew previous endorsement
Sen. Mike Lee (Utah): Did not endorse Trump previously
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (Utah): Withdrew previous endorsement
Rep. Mia Love (Utah): Did not endorse Trump previously
Rep. Chris Stewart (Utah): Withdrew previous endorsement
Rep. Barbara Comstock (Virginia)
Rep. Mike Coffman (Colorado)
Rep. Charlie Dent (Pennsylvania): Previously said he is not voting for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton in the general election
Rep. Patrick Meehan (Pennsylvania)
Rep. Ann Wagner (Missouri): Withdrew previous endorsement
Rep. Rodney Davis (Illinois): Withdrew previous endorsement
Rep. Fred Upton (Michigan)
Rep. Justin Amash (Michigan)
Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (Nebraska)
Rep. Frank LoBiondo (New Jersey): Said he will write in Mike Pence
Rep Scott Garrett (New Jersey): Withdrew previous endorsement
Gov. Dennis Daugaard (South Dakota): Withdrew previous endorsement
Joe Heck, Senate Candidate (Nevada): Is running for Democratic Minority Leader Harry Reid's seat
Darryl Glenn, Senate Candidate (Colorado): Withdrew previous support
Carly Fiorina, former presidential candidate
George Pataki, former New York governor
Jon Huntsman, former Utah governor
Hugh Hewitt, conservative radio talk show host, previous Trump backer
Condoleeza Rice, former secretary of state: Wrote that as a Republican, she hopes "to support someone who has the dignity and stature to run for the highest office in the greatest democracy on earth."
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Old 10-10-2016, 03:03 PM   #3
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“trailer-trash.”bimbo failed cabaret singer towards women making claims against her husband... I guess you dont see her as a victim of Bill's deceit either ??

.. I Grab them by the P u s s y or I moved on her like a bitch, or I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.” “I did try and f--- her. She was married,”

yet you some how you can put these statements them in the same category that's amazing

I am far from defending her but theses things are not the same no matter how hard you try to say they are

Are these people also defending Hillary or do they see what I see?
Republicans Calling For Trump To Step Aside As Nominee

Sen. John Thune (South Dakota): Third highest ranking Republican in the Senate, previously said he would support the nominee
Sen. Mark Kirk (Illinois): Ran campaign ads distancing himself from Trump
Sen. Ben Sasse (Nebraska): Prominent "Never Trumper"
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First, your list of prominent Republicans who are bashing Trump, proves my point, it doesn't prove your point. Republicans are willing to say out loud, that Trump is an ass, because he is. Where are the prominent Democrats telling Hilary that you don't attack the character of assault victims?

Making vulgar comments towards women in general (which I think?? is what Trump did) may be vulgar, but it's not as damaging as Hilary going on national television, pointing out specific women, and slut-shaming them. I don't see how anyone with a speck of intellectual honesty can disagree, but you are protecting your candidate no matter what. You would have me believe, that if Trump is secretly recorded saying "I can nail whoever I want", is MORE offensive to you, than Hilary going on national TV, naming your wife (who had been assaulted) by name, and calling her a slut? Seriously?

You also, as usual. dodged my questions, so here they are again, but let me tell you, it gets tiring when I address your points but you don't do the same.

"Hillary comments are specific to singular women "

OK, you are saying, incredibly, that insults directed at specific women are better than insults aimed at women in general. If that's true, how come liberals attacked Trump when he fat-shamed a specific woman who was in his beauty pageant? Using your logic, since that insult was aimed at a specific woman, it's not a big deal, right? Yet your side attacked him for it. Yet when Hilary makes attacks on specific women, you say it's no big deal. Sure looks like hypocrisy.

"at the time society did not see them as the same comment is seen to day 2016 "

Please show us some kind of evidence, ANY evidence, that in 1999, it was acceptable to attack the character of victims of rape and assault?

Lord almighty...
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