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10-12-2016, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
https://www.politiplatform.com/clinton has 175 policy positions I guess she wins on # of policy positions...of course, she is beholden to MANY more special interests
Not sure trump understands How a Bill becomes a law seeing he thinks the President of the united states can put someone in jail
his policy on health care : Healthcare
number 20
Defund Planned Parenthood thats it
its clear he has no plan
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if you are suggesting he has no plan regarding healthcare, perhaps he believes that healthcare it is not a responsibility of the position? didn't read that in the job description anywhere...
he said "you'd be in jail"....he didn't say "I'd put you in jail"
now if she ended up in jail because his highly politicized State Department, Justice Department, FBI etc....made sure she ended up in jail....then we can just give him credit for continuing the policies of Obama with opposite results for Hill due to the change in partisanship
if she ended up in jail as a result of the fact that his State, Justice Dept and FBI were not politicized and actually conducted legitimate investigations and provided all of the evidence cooperating with the investigation...then it would be as it should be...
either way democrats, would have no business complaining
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10-12-2016, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
if you are suggesting he has no plan regarding healthcare, perhaps he believes that healthcare it is not a responsibility of the position? didn't read that in the job description anywhere...
he said "you'd be in jail"....he didn't say "I'd put you in jail"
now if she ended up in jail because his highly politicized State Department, Justice Department, FBI etc....made sure she ended up in jail....then we can just give him credit for continuing the policies of Obama with opposite results for Hill due to the change in partisanship
if she ended up in jail as a result of the fact that his State, Justice Dept and FBI were not politicized and actually conducted legitimate investigations and provided all of the evidence cooperating with the investigation...then it would be as it should be...
either way democrats, would have no business complaining
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Clinton said it was “awfully good” that someone with the temperament of Trump was not in charge of the law in the country, provoking another Trump jab: “Because you’d be in jail.”
A defiant Donald Trump on Sunday attacked former President Bill Clinton for his treatment of women and vowed, if he won the White House, to put Hillary Clinton in jail for operating a private email server while U.S. secretary of state. http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/...il-threat.html
how do you have the ability not to clearly what most other people see plain as day?
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10-12-2016, 05:08 PM
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time to go
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Clinton said it was “awfully good” that someone with the temperament of Trump was not in charge of the law in the country, provoking another Trump jab: “Because you’d be in jail.”
A defiant Donald Trump on Sunday attacked former President Bill Clinton for his treatment of women and vowed, if he won the White House, to put Hillary Clinton in jail for operating a private email server while U.S. secretary of state. http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/...il-threat.html
how do you have the ability not to clearly what most other people see plain as day?
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What is it you are trying to say? What are we not seeing?
Have you seen this by the way.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/democr...165700194.html
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10-12-2016, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Clinton said it was “awfully good” that someone with the temperament of Trump was not in charge of the law in the country, provoking another Trump jab: “Because you’d be in jail.”
A defiant Donald Trump on Sunday attacked former President Bill Clinton for his treatment of women and vowed, if he won the White House, to put Hillary Clinton in jail for operating a private email server while U.S. secretary of state. http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/...il-threat.html
how do you have the ability not to clearly what most other people see plain as day?
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she'd be in jail because his administration would actually enforce the laws is the implication and a HYUUUGE problem for Hillary's "temperament" of corruption
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...s-insider.html
as opposed to the current administration that selectively enforces them, ignores them and even makes them up when it feels like it....
your panties are in a bunch over an off handed "remark" by Trump ...while the current administration had "actually done" what you fear...
seems to be a recurring theme
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10-12-2016, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
she'd be in jail because his administration would actually enforce the laws is the implication and a HYUUUGE problem for Hillary's "temperament" of corruption
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...s-insider.html
as opposed to the current administration that selectively enforces them, ignores them and even makes them up when it feels like it....
your panties are in a bunch over an off handed "remark" by Trump ...while the current administration had "actually done" what you fear...
seems to be a recurring theme
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Yeah, and if wd can't comprehend something as simple and direct as your explanation, and must #^^^^&er over Trump somehow saying that he personally would put Hillary in jail, the article clearly says, if wd read that far: "Trump, the Republican presidential candidate, said he would appoint a special prosecutor to look into his Democratic rival's email use because she had endangered national security during her tenure as President Barack Obama's chief diplomat from 2009-2013." Of course, he would ask his attorney general to appoint the prosecutor.
Last edited by detbuch; 10-12-2016 at 08:23 PM..
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10-13-2016, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
she'd be in jail because his administration would actually enforce the laws is the implication and a HYUUUGE problem for Hillary's "temperament" of corruption
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...s-insider.html
as opposed to the current administration that selectively enforces them, ignores them and even makes them up when it feels like it....
your panties are in a bunch over an off handed "remark" by Trump ...while the current administration had "actually done" what you fear...
seems to be a recurring theme
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this recurring Dream or Theme seems to the one created by the right hell you have detbuch using phrases like dictator's hat complaining about executive orders (which are not new) regulatory agency and saying it's al constitutionally questionable.... its conspiracy central on steroids ..
Trump represents the right wish for a Time machine .. thats what he is promising , a path back to the 50's where everything was a Norman Rockwell painting and white was might ... he is using the same sales tactics he used for Trump University it will be Great "THAT I can tell you!" or with health insurance You’re gonna have plans that are so good!
it's Nationalism packaged as Patriotism 2 very different
this guy sums it up better than I could (or my conspiracy theory)
The nationalist tends to shout slogans to proclaim his country’s greatness; the patriot is quietly confident, aware of his nation’s strengths and weaknesses. In wanting to holler, the nationalist reflects insecurity, low self-esteem, even a feeling of inferiority; the patriot is comfortable in his skin. “Every nationalist is haunted by the belief that the past can be altered,” wrote Orwell.
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10-13-2016, 07:29 AM
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everybody thought water gate was corrupt....this administration is much worst and no one has paid a price for all the corruption.... 
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"When its not about money,it's all about money."...
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10-13-2016, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
this recurring Dream or Theme seems to the one created by the right hell you have detbuch using phrases like dictator's hat complaining about executive orders (which are not new) regulatory agency and saying it's al constitutionally questionable.... its conspiracy central on steroids ..
Your use of the phrase"the right hell" gives the hypocritical lie to the rest of your paragraph's recurring Dream or Theme. My metaphors are more accurate than yours. An exectutive order which is made outside of constitutional bounds (outside of the law pertaining to presidential power) is dictatorial. The fact that it is not new is irrelevant. Regulatory agencies actually do exist. And they are used exactly as I described. And they are constitutionally questionable as I have described in detail on this forum in the past. That, apparently, you don't understand that, and must depend on politically biased Judges to tell you how to think doesn't give any credence to your "conspiracy central on steroids" conspiracy.
Trump represents the right wish for a Time machine .. thats what he is promising , a path back to the 50's where everything was a Norman Rockwell painting and white was might ...
I never heard him promise any of that. Your metaphor is misplaced. It seems to be more of a tactic to persuade,
he is using the same sales tactics he used for Trump University it will be Great "THAT I can tell you!" or with health insurance You’re gonna have plans that are so good!
Yeah, he is using a rhetorical tactic . . . just as you did. You're a hypocrite.
it's Nationalism packaged as Patriotism 2 very different
Though patriotism and nationalism are different, they need not be incompatable. Tom Paine's "Sunshine Patriot", or Patrick henry's "Give me Liberty or Give Me Death" speeches for example.
this guy sums it up better than I could (or my conspiracy theory)
The nationalist tends to shout slogans to proclaim his country’s greatness; the patriot is quietly confident, aware of his nation’s strengths and weaknesses. In wanting to holler, the nationalist reflects insecurity, low self-esteem, even a feeling of inferiority; the patriot is comfortable in his skin. “Every nationalist is haunted by the belief that the past can be altered,” wrote Orwell.
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If you truly understood Orwell, you would not embrace a Progressive for President, nor for any other position of political power. Using his distinction between nationalism and patriotism in order to support a politician who is the standard bearer for a system of government which claims that there are no inherent rights, but only rights which the government allows, shows you do not understand what Orwell was trying to warn us against. And yes, Progressives have stated that there are no inalienable rights.
Last edited by detbuch; 11-04-2016 at 10:32 PM..
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10-13-2016, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
If you truly understood Orwell, you would not embrace a Progressive for President, nor for any other position of political power. Using his distinction between nationalism and patriotism in order to support a politician who is the standard bearer for a system of government which claims that there are no inherent rights, but only rights which the government allows, shows you do not understand what Orwell was trying to warn us against. And yes, Progressives have stated that there are no inalienable rights.
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Stay focused not talking Animal Farm
Just Nationalism and Patriotism and 1 fitting description ...
theres no hidden message
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