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Old 06-07-2017, 08:58 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by wdmso View Post
white guy kills 2 on Train another white guy shoots five ex-colleagues in head

Was there any other connection between these killings other than whiteness? And if whiteness was the connection, were the killings "racist"? I do hear quite often that whites are racist. Or is there a written or oral sort of "Bible" that commands whites to kill those who don't correctly adhere to whiteness? Is there an equivalence between these "whiteness" killings and Islamic terrorist killings? Were these "whiteness" killings acts of terror?

and the is in the country you live in,,, but we care more about when the word islamic is attached . if not oh well nothing to see... worried about those around you those in England Most are home grown English born

Most people in England are "home grown." Being home grown does not seem to be a reason for killing other, presumably home grown, people. I don't recall that being home grown was ever cited as motivation to kill other home grown people.

There is always some other reason given for killing fellow home-growns. In the case of Islamic terrorism, being Muslim is always one of the key factors, the major motivator, for killing other people. It's an amazingly consistent connection between various Islamic terror killings.

"And I don't see these people making a concerted effort to adopt to the culture of their new host countries. "

And I dont see people making a concerted effort to see them as equal in their host countries ... thats true here and a lot of other places doesn't justify their actions at all but lets no look at the issue thru a key hole like so many try to do
Aren't we always reminded that Islamic terrorists kill more Muslims than anybody else? Is that because the terrorists don't think they are being treated as equal to "peaceful" Muslims? Not even in host countries that are Islamic States? Which keyhole must one look through to see the reason for Islamists killing mostly Muslims?

Is it possible that you are looking through keyholes which misdirect you from why Islamists kill in the name of Allah rather than in the name of some social injustice or lack of gainful employment?
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Old 06-07-2017, 09:22 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by wdmso View Post
Sir i do not live in irrational fear
You live in irrational perspectives and contradictions.
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Old 06-08-2017, 06:08 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by wdmso View Post
Sir i do not live in irrational fear as you do .... More Americans have been killed by other Americans in the last week.. then by the Musulims you fear so much since Trump was elected all this with out his Travel band .. unlike you I am willing to risk myself for tolerance. right now you dont sound much different then they do.. Waving the flag dosn't change the message you spew ... America is built on Tolerance and the risk will never be to great when America isolates its self in fear as you suggest we have lost and lost everything
When your position on an issue means you can't even begin to answer such a simple question, what does that say about the merits of your position? Nothing good, sir, nothing good. I do t 'live in fear'. But I do deal with reality, even when that reality doesn't fit conveniently into my belief system.

Wdmso, you keep pointing out that not every tragedy in the world is caused by terrorism. No one is saying otherwise. You are implying that because not every single crime in the world is related to terrorism, that means we don't need to be concerned with terrorism.

wdmso, why do we have drug laws? Someone got killed yesterday in a manner that had nothing to do with drugs. Drug laws don't solve all crime, so why bother?

'See how crazy that sounds? Does it sound familiar? It should, it's your logic
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