Trump launches his own 'propaganda' network

[JohnR]

News:

Yes, terrible that there would be an official "News Section" from the campaign but for the most part wee still have a Free Press, not something in those other countries you mention. In fact NOTHING like those other countries.

But the current news outlets were just as Pro-Obama as they are Anti-Trump. For one, I would greatly prefer an even baseline of love / hate so we can have a low bias news but that aintgonnahappen.

As for Obama white house and influencing news I have one name: Ben Rhodes

As Malley and representatives of the State Department, including Wendy Sherman and Secretary of State John Kerry, engaged in formal negotiations with the Iranians, to ratify details of a framework that had already been agreed upon, Rhodes’s war room did its work on Capitol Hill and with reporters. In the spring of last year, legions of arms-control experts began popping up at think tanks and on social media, and then became key sources for hundreds of often-clueless reporters. “We created an echo chamber,” he admitted, when I asked him to explain the onslaught of freshly minted experts cheerleading for the deal. “They were saying things that validated what we had given them to say.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/m...guru.html?_r=0

RE: Jobs

Obama created 11 million jobs over 8 years just after the economy lost 8.5 million jobs from 2008-2011, so if you add jobs lost during last year of Bush you are up around 2.5 million net jobs after the recovery.

So over 8 years Obama created 2.5 mil net jobs (at lower wages on average than prior to recession). Trump may do that in 4 but we may have another recession too.

So at best your talking point is that - a talking point, at worst it misrepresents numbers to push a narrative - what we all should be generally against.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

News:

Yes, terrible that there would be an official "News Section" from the campaign but for the most part wee still have a Free Press, not something in those other countries you mention. In fact NOTHING like those other countries.

But the current news outlets were just as Pro-Obama as they are Anti-Trump. For one, I would greatly prefer an even baseline of love / hate so we can have a low bias news but that aintgonnahappen.

As for Obama white house and influencing news I have one name: Ben Rhodes

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/m...guru.html?_r=0

RE: Jobs

Obama created 11 million jobs over 8 years just after the economy lost 8.5 million jobs from 2008-2011, so if you add jobs lost during last year of Bush you are up around 2.5 million net jobs after the recovery.

So over 8 years Obama created 2.5 mil net jobs (at lower wages on average than prior to recession). Trump may do that in 4 but we may have another recession too.

So at best your talking point is that - a talking point, at worst it misrepresents numbers to push a narrative - what we all should be generally against.

fact Obama was given no credit for stock market or Jobs growth..

But Magically trump gets credit from his base for Both .in 1st 6 months ... thats hypocrisy not a talking point

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

fact Obama was given no credit for stock market or Jobs growth..

But Magically trump gets credit from his base for Both .in 1st 6 months ... thats hypocrisy not a talking point

Obama was constantly given credit for stock market and job growth in the mainstream media. Other than Fox (I guess, I don't watch much TV news) Trump gets little credit which is squeezed into a constant barrage of investigations of Trump for collusion and personality foibles.

I am suspicious of stock market growth. I personally don't measure it as a success for a President's policies. Especially when, in my opinion, it occurs in times of slow job growth and weak business conditions. My opinion of Stock market booms under Obama was that it was fueled by the huge stimulus packages created by government pumped money into the banking and investment communities which was not based on actual strong business or job growth. It appeared that the major job growth under Obama was either in government, or in business that was heavily regulated and subsidized by government, and was weak in growth outside of major government influence where what growth occurred was not well paid.

Trump seems to be attempting to grow the industrial
base which traditionally provided well paying jobs for average folks, and depended on entrepreneurship rather government cronyism. Remains to be seen if his policies succeed in that direction. And if his own party backs his efforts.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Trump seems to be attempting to grow the industrial
base which traditionally provided well paying jobs for average folks, and depended on entrepreneurship rather government cronyism.

I was listening to that bastion of right wing propaganda probably directed from the Whitehouse other day...NPR....and they were talking about the recent job numbers...seems worker participation rate is ticking up finally, 1.1 million fewer on food stamps and the bulk of job creation is employing lower wage and education portion of society which would seem like a good thing but I guess that takes them out of the government dependency womb which I'm sure disappoints some...

the thing to watch is the revisions....with Obama and Clinton they would tout and celebrate good jobs numbers which were regularly revised downward a month or two later.....


"Trumpanzees" is great and probably racist...but Trumpanzees vs. the Obamorons would be a fantastic Creature Double Feature

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

if you took the time to read balanced/fair reporting media the term wouldn't be such a surprise .

What major news bureau would you determine as fair and balanced in reporting?

Originally Posted by wdmso

fact Obama was given no credit for stock market or Jobs growth..

But Magically trump gets credit from his base for Both .in 1st 6 months ... thats hypocrisy not a talking point

All I hear is how great O was for restoring the Stock Market, particularly from Socialists and anti-corporate types.

[Cool Beans]

many of these so called Obama created jobs are a direct result of ObamaCare and changing the requirement for providing healthcare to 30 hours a week. Many part time 38hrs a week jobs instantly became 28 -29 hrs/week jobs. For every 38 hr per week job he created a "NEW" 28 hr per week part time job. My wife and my daughter were both victims of this when their part time jobs were dropped to less than 30 hours per week and their workplaces hired a few more part time employees to fill the gaps. This type of job creation hurts America more than helps it.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

What major news bureau would you determine as fair and balanced in reporting?

I suggest more than Just one Major news bureau this conspiracy theory about the main stream media and the deep state are working together to get rid of Trump is not funny anymore


All I hear is how great O was for restoring the Stock Market, particularly from Socialists and anti-corporate types.

Thats not the topic not sure why we cant just accept that trump supporters here and else where have a double standard what they made hay over for the last POTUS now they have no interest in hay making over the same behavior ..

case in point

[buckman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

case in point

And you call him lazy
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

case in point

we were told during the Obama years by the left and MSM that executive orders were good and necessary...soooo...giddayup!! Trump wouldn't have to issue so many executive orders if Obama didn't issue so many stupid executive orders..it's Obama's fault

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

case in point

For starters, you quoted someone else's post in with mine

Secondly - what does your image have to do with our discussion?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

fact Obama was given no credit for stock market or Jobs growth..

But Magically trump gets credit from his base for Both .in 1st 6 months ... thats hypocrisy not a talking point

Well Obama did add 10 trillion or so debt while performing economic miracles . Make sure you give him credit for that
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