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09-30-2017, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Isn't there a flag code or something similar about how to display the flag.
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Yes, and it says you should stand for the national anthem.
§171. Conduct during playing
During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should render the military salute at the first note of the anthem and retain this position until the last note. When the flag is not displayed, those present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed there.
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10-01-2017, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Yes, and it says you should stand for the national anthem.
§171. Conduct during playing
During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should render the military salute at the first note of the anthem and retain this position until the last note. When the flag is not displayed, those present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed there.
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Should stand .. it doesn't say you will stand or must stand ... because as Americans you have freedom of choice or are we North korea now?
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10-01-2017, 12:48 PM
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Should stand .. it doesn't say you will stand or must stand ... because as Americans you have freedom of choice or are we North korea now?
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It tells you how to show proper respect, if your not standing then your not respecting....why is that such a hard concept to understand?
So if you are physically able to, you should stand.
And another thing, the people that they are trying to get sympathetic to their cause.....really don't want to discuss the intent of the word "Should"
You absolutely have the freedom to choose. And sometimes that choice comes with consequences. This consequence of this choice is that fans are choosing to think they are A-Holes. Welcome to America.
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10-01-2017, 01:23 PM
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It tells you how to show proper respect, if your not standing then your not respecting....why is that such a hard concept to understand? do have an issue with people talking drinking beer on their phone your upset and 10 people on a field taking an Knee thats Amazing whos policing them??
So if you are physically able to, you should stand.
And another thing, the people that they are trying to get sympathetic to their cause.....really don't want to discuss the intent of the word "Should"
You absolutely have the freedom to choose. And sometimes that choice comes with consequences. This consequence of this choice is that fans are choosing to think they are A-Holes. Welcome to America. no only the Fans you agree with its called echo chamber
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Again facts dont matter
U.S. Army veteran Nate Boyer convinced Colin Kaepernick to kneel, rather than sit, while protesting police brutality during the national anthem.
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10-01-2017, 01:31 PM
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Again facts dont matter
U.S. Army veteran Nate Boyer convinced Colin Kaepernick to kneel, rather than sit, while protesting police brutality during the national anthem.
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What does that have to do with what I replied with.
and I could give a rat's ass what Nate Boyer did.
U.S. Navy veteran TDF thinks they are a bunch of dumbasses for kneeling during the national anthem to protest.
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10-01-2017, 01:32 PM
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do have an issue with people talking drinking beer on their phone
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Yes, yes I do....and I think they are A-Holes too
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10-02-2017, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Should stand .. it doesn't say you will stand or must stand ... because as Americans you have freedom of choice or are we North korea now?
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TDF never said, or even implied, that anyone should be compelled to stand. Paul asked if there was a code, and there is, and TDF posted it. He answered the question EXACTLY as it was asked. I know that a direct answer to a direct question isn't something that liberals have an easy time recognizing, but that's what it was.
It's a free country. They are free to kneel without fear of getting arrested. Fans are free to get offended by it. And because they are in the entertainment industry, if they offend enough fans, the owners are probably free to fire anyone who does it, if they want to. If I act in a way that hurts my company's bottom line, they can fire me, even if I'm not breaking any laws. I can't walk around with a t-shirt that says my company stinks, and expect to keep my job.
I would never support a law that made it a crime to kneel during the anthem. But I would be very happy if they all got fired for doing it. Having the legal right to do something, and having the right to do it while at work without fear of consequence, are two very different things.
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