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			03-01-2018, 10:24 AM
			
			
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2 of the most dangerous things on the planet Religion and guns and under 1 roof ...  Imagine if that was in a  mosque
 
Another gun related story  Trump  said the NRA has "great power over you people", but that the lobby has "less power over me".
 
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 Wow - full blown Spence segue, take something very crazy then broadbrush a lot of others immediately after.
 
Did you read the article? Moonies. Ever hear of them? Jonestown without the Koolaid. 
 
This is a crazy stylized foolish ceremony (btw - very Russian like) that is in the realm of beyond crazy almost to trying to catch a comet by its tail crazy.
 
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			03-01-2018, 10:52 AM
			
			
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				 take something very crazy then broadbrush a lot of others immediately after. 
  
			
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 Like that doesn't happen here all the time.
 
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			03-01-2018, 11:05 AM
			
			
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		 My point is simple theses are the people that set the public face to the gun issue .. not Normal gun owners  they are being dragged alongside people like this and people like wayne lapierre or Dana Loesch? and others with their outrageous claims .. and how they address gun violence  with tired cliches..  and an intractable postition 
 
Be part of the solution or the solution will be made with out you.. 
 
I am not anti gun I am anti the 2a guys say I can have what i want when I want it . ( and why should I have to wait 1 day or 30 days to buy a gun or are against Gun Registration .. or pay for your own background check or have a different class licenses for fire arm Classes.. we do it with a drivers Licenses  for things from buses to tractor trailers . it works  why not with guns ? 
 
 
Laws requiring gun owners to register their firearms ensure gun owner accountability and help law enforcement solve crimes and disarm criminals. Despite the clear advantages inherent in registration laws, few states have such laws on the books—and some prohibit them outright. 
 
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			03-01-2018, 11:13 AM
			
			
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				My point is simple theses are the people that set the public face to the gun issue .. 
			
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 No, these are the people that the media is  Trying to make the public face of the gun issue....
 
the people you keep arguing with are the ones that are trying to set the public face of the gun issue, but they seem to get ignored, or lumped in with these morons.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-01-2018, 11:30 AM
			
			
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				No, these are the people that the media is Trying to make the public face of the gun issue.... 
 
the people you keep arguing with are the ones that are trying to set the public face of the gun issue, but they seem to get ignored, or lumped in with these morons. 
			
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 Normal 90% of gun owners are invisible to the public..but  but they seem to get ignored yes by the NRA who speaks for them even if they dont support the message.. they are the only Show in Town .
 
 Then you have theses people who worship the gun then you have all the open carry yahoos who think it cool i guess to strut around with a rifle strapped to your back   or the Bundy Militias   all very public 
 
Normal gun owners are being drowned out not by the Media.. but by the NRA and other gun owners  
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-01-2018, 12:44 PM
			
			
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				Normal 90% of gun owners are invisible to the public..but  but they seem to get ignored yes by the NRA who speaks for them even if they dont support the message.. they are the only Show in Town . 
 
Should people who work in unionized shops but don't support the union who supposedly speaks for them by negotiated contracts be listened to? 
 
 Then you have theses people who worship the gun then you have all the open carry yahoos who think it cool i guess to strut around with a rifle strapped to your back   or the Bundy Militias   all very public  
 
So now you get to define these people, speak for who they are?  Your hyper-judgmental portrayal of them is as outlandish as you make them out to be. 
 
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 How do you know that 90% of gun owners don't agree with the NRA? 
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			03-01-2018, 12:59 PM
			
			
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				How do you know that 90% of gun owners don't agree with the NRA? 
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 Somewheres around 39% of households own guns 
Somewheres around 50% of republicans support gun control 
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			03-01-2018, 02:18 PM
			
			
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				How do you know that 90% of gun owners don't agree with the NRA? 
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 "Should people who work in unionized shops but don't support the union who supposedly speaks for them by negotiated contracts be listened to?"
 
I'm just gonna make some popcorn and open a beer, and wait for him to respond to that one.  
		
		
		
		
		
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				"Should people who work in unionized shops but don't support the union who supposedly speaks for them by negotiated contracts be listened to?" 
 
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 Depends.  They have a right to voice their opinion and even vote out the union membership.
 
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				This is a crazy stylized foolish ceremony (btw - very Russian like) that is in the realm of beyond crazy almost to trying to catch a comet by its tail crazy. 
			
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 But I guarantee you it's being reported in some countries like everyday American life. Just like we do to them...  
		
		
		
		
		
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				But I guarantee you it's being reported in some countries like everyday American life. Just like we do to them... 
			
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 Everyday Christian American life, getting ready to deal with Muslims. 
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