In pictures: US gun-blessing ceremony

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

How do you know that 90% of gun owners don't agree with the NRA?
Do you just make this stuff up?

"Should people who work in unionized shops but don't support the union who supposedly speaks for them by negotiated contracts be listened to?"

I'm just gonna make some popcorn and open a beer, and wait for him to respond to that one.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Should people who work in unionized shops but don't support the union who supposedly speaks for them by negotiated contracts be listened to?"

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Depends. They have a right to voice their opinion and even vote out the union membership.

When Exxon Mobil or GE sends me a proxy and I don't vote the way they recommend, are they listening to my vote? Sometimes company heads ignore votes that get greater than 50%. If I own shares, I am an owner.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

My point is simple theses are the people that set the public face to the gun issue .. not Normal gun owners they are being dragged alongside people like this and people like wayne lapierre or Dana Loesch? and others with their outrageous claims .. and how they address gun violence with tired cliches.. and an intractable postition

No - this is what a lot of people WANT to believe 2A supporters are. The same people that can't figure out how dialogue between both sides breaks down so fast (OK - they are not surpised, probably welcome it.

"We are not going to take your guns"

Then proposes legislation banning pretty much anything not a lever action.

Originally Posted by wdmso

Be part of the solution or the solution will be made with out you..

Ahem, I'll repeat; "We are not going to take your guns"

Then proposes legislation banning pretty much anything not a lever action or powderloaded.

Originally Posted by wdmso

I am not anti gun I am anti the 2a guys say I can have what i want when I want it . ( and why should I have to wait 1 day or 30 days to buy a gun or are against Gun Registration .. or pay for your own background check or have a different class licenses for fire arm Classes.. we do it with a drivers Licenses for things from buses to tractor trailers . it works why not with guns ?

Because Driving is a Privileged, not a right.

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

No, these are the people that the media is Trying to make the public face of the gun issue.....

^^^^^^ This

Originally Posted by spence

But I guarantee you it's being reported in some countries like everyday American life. Just like we do to them...

Being reported how we are, yes. But give me examples of how it is the same the other way??

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

No - this is what a lot of people WANT to believe 2A supporters are. The same people that can't figure out how dialogue between both sides breaks down so fast (OK - they are not surpised, probably welcome it.

"We are not going to take your guns"

Then proposes legislation banning pretty much anything not a lever action.



Ahem, I'll repeat; "We are not going to take your guns"

Then proposes legislation banning pretty much anything not a lever action or powderloaded.



Because Driving is a Privileged, not a right.




^^^^^^ This




Being reported how we are, yes. But give me examples of how it is the same the other way??

I see your in the they are going to take are guns side of the argument and the 2a says I can have what ever gun I want

Why do 2a guys ignore the well regulated militia part of the 2a

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I see your in the they are going to take are guns side of the argument and the 2a says I can have what ever gun I want

Why do 2a guys ignore the well regulated militia part of the 2a

“They” are only going to take something if we allow it. They certainly are trying, been chipping away at infringing for close to a century.

Is your question on militia just you thinking out loud or are you actually asking? I figured you know the wording of militia means the people, and that includes you.
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[zimmy]

Originally Posted by JohnR

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Ahem, I'll repeat; "We are not going to take your guns"

Then proposes legislation banning pretty much anything not a lever action or powderloaded.

What legislation are you talking about? Never heard of it. I was recently thinking that I would support that kind of thing. I would want none of the bs pelletized powder garbage they use today. When I was a kid we would shoot my dad's musket. Ram the paper wad down the barrel, drop in a lead ball. Now that took some skill. None of the bs rifling that makes it go straight so anyone can shoot. Took instinct, intuition to get it where you wanted it. Would put everyone on equal ground.
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[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by zimmy

What legislation are you talking about? Never heard of it. I was recently thinking that I would support that kind of thing. I would want none of the bs pelletized powder garbage they use today. When I was a kid we would shoot my dad's musket. Ram the paper wad down the barrel, drop in a lead ball. Now that took some skill. None of the bs rifling that makes it go straight so anyone can shoot. Took instinct, intuition to get it where you wanted it. Would put everyone on equal ground.
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I guess you did not look
The congressman from RI just put up a doozy. There are others that do plenty on infringing also

Equal ground huh? Kinda like fish finders and side scan?
Life is about choices, you choose to challenge yourself your way and I’ll do it my way.
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[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

I guess you did not look
The congressman from RI just put up a doozy. There are others that do plenty on infringing also

Equal ground huh? Kinda like fish finders and side scan?
Life is about choices, you choose to challenge yourself your way and I’ll do it my way.
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I just read the bill. I don't see anything in it about lever action, black powder, any of that stuff. I want more challenge for the guy in the hotel window in Vegas or in the first grade classroom. I forgot to mention flints. Everything should be flintlock.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by zimmy

I just read the bill. I don't see anything in it about lever action, black powder, any of that stuff. I want more challenge for the guy in the hotel window in Vegas or in the first grade classroom. I forgot to mention flints. Everything should be flintlock.
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That is all that is left. They statement indicates anything semi-automatic, hand gun or rifle, not a 22.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

I guess you did not look
The congressman from RI just put up a doozy. There are others that do plenty on infringing also


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Cicciline ran a poll asking his constituents if they wanted more gun legislation to reduce gun violence.....the poll ran 76% NO to 24% YES until Cicciline had it taken down early because he didn't get the results he was hoping for....then he introduced the legislation anyway....

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by scottw

Cicciline ran a poll asking his constituents if they wanted more gun legislation to reduce gun violence.....the poll ran 76% NO to 24% YES until Cicciline had it taken down early because he didn't get the results he was hoping for....then he introduced the legislation anyway....

A Twitter poll? Now that is scientific!
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

Cicciline ran a poll asking his constituents if they wanted more gun legislation to reduce gun violence.....the poll ran 76% NO to 24% YES until Cicciline had it taken down early because he didn't get the results he was hoping for....then he introduced the legislation anyway....

He introduced Assault Weapons Ban of 2018 in the U.S. House.

yea ok he based his legislation on a FB poll