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03-20-2018, 12:58 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD GOAT
I think we need a car that stops if someone has a cell phone and is siting in the driver seat.
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Yes indeed, similar to the repeat drunk not being able to start their cars, but many here would consider that another lost freedom.
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03-20-2018, 01:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Yes indeed, similar to the repeat drunk not being able to start their cars, but many here would consider that another lost freedom.
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But, see, in your scenario your blaming the driver, not the car. |
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03-20-2018, 01:35 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by detbuch
But, see, in your scenario your blaming the driver, not the car.
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Yeah and your point is? I never blamed the gun either, I do have issue with how easy nuts, criminals or anyone wishing to do harm can get their hands on them.
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03-20-2018, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Yeah and your point is? I never blamed the gun either, I do have issue with how easy nuts, criminals or anyone wishing to do harm can get their hands on them.
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You and I mostly agree. My point is that your scenario does not create a loss of freedom for those who are not repeat drunkards. There are not many who believe there is a right to drive while drunk. Nor is there, in a corollary scenario re guns, a loss of freedom for law abiding citizens to buy a gun, even an AR15 type, if guns would not fire in the hands of repeat criminals. The onus, in either scenario, is on the individual, not the instrument. |
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03-21-2018, 05:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Yes indeed, similar to the repeat drunk not being able to start their cars, but many here would consider that another lost freedom.
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what is confusing about this is that, as far as I'm aware, there is no established freedom or right to drive drunk...so...why would anyone consider a drunk being unable to start/drive his car a "lost freedom"?
who is "many"...can you name a few? |
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