Not a joke - was almost in an accident the other day

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Is this some desperate attempt at an analogy?
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I am surprised there haven't been calls to let anyone drive any type of vehicle, no license necessary, at any speed or direction in any lane of the road. Criminals don't follow driving laws anyway!
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by zimmy

I am surprised there haven't been calls to let anyone drive any type of vehicle, no license necessary, at any speed or direction in any lane of the road. Criminals don't follow driving laws anyway!
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Where in the Constitution can you find that the states are not allowed to make laws and regulations regarding the driving of automobiles?

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Where in the Constitution can you find that the states are not allowed to make laws and regulations regarding the driving of automobiles?

I was hoping you would say that

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Criminals don't follow driving laws anyway!
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Well, at least you said something that made sense. it's an improvement

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Well, at least you said something that made sense. it's an improvement

You are a real knob.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by zimmy

You are a real knob.

I suppose this a Knob-free statement.

Originally Posted by zimmy

I am surprised there haven't been calls to let anyone drive any type of vehicle, no license necessary, at any speed or direction in any lane of the road. Criminals don't follow driving laws anyway!
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and I've been called worse.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Is this some desperate attempt at an analogy?
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Huh? No - this actually happened, it is getting rapidly worse, and completely preventable. Ordered my dash cam and will be filming it.

Originally Posted by detbuch

I responded to a post which responded to a previous post by comparing a car that stops a drunk to the original post about "a car that stops if someone has a cell phone and is sitting in the driver seat." I don't see anything in either mentioning a court hearing. Maybe I'm misreading it, but the posts suggests to me the possibility of manufacturing cars that stopped if a driver has a cell phone or could stop a drunk from driving--that all cars would have that feature built into them. The reason for that feature being the prevention of a driver from using the car, not because the car would be at fault for an accident if it didn't have the feature, but because the driver would be at fault, regardless of the model of the car. And so the driver would be limited, not the car. And that would not, by most, be considered a loss of freedom.

I fleshed out the comparison with guns in a similar situation in which guns had a built in feature: "Nor is there, in a corollary scenario re guns, a loss of freedom for law abiding citizens to buy a gun, even an AR15 type, if guns would not fire in the hands of repeat criminals." As in the car scenarios, all guns would be manufactured with this feature

In either the gun or car scenarios, I said it is "the individual, not the instrument" that is being prevented regardless of the model.

The court is the legal entity that determines if you need to blow into a tube to allow your ignition to start if you are a repeat offender / high risk DUI.

I agree with most of your premise

Originally Posted by scottw

.it's unnerving when you are accustomed to making eye contact as it gives you an indication that they know you are there......

^^^^^ This

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I suppose this a Knob-free statement.



and I've been called worse.

I didn't want to be overly rude