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Old 06-19-2018, 03:41 PM   #1
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Are you a disciple?

No. I am no ones disciple. I think for myself. Do you think in terms of being a disciple? Are you someone's disciple?

There are a lot of videos on the net that discredit the medias use of these children in order to demonize Trump. Molyneux is usually more comprehensive yet compact in his approach.


Do you believe that most Mexicans abuse their children . . .?

He didn't say that. He did what you seem to like doing. He cited several statistics and sourced them . . . as in 2012 five out of 10 children in Mexico suffered some form of violence . . . in 2013 seven out of 10 did. In 2014 sexual violence against minors rose 73% from 2013 in Mexico. Mexico ranks first in rates of physical violence and sexual abuse and homicide of children under 14. Mexico ranks second in money generated by sex trafficking with minors. It ranks second to Thailand in child pornography. And the video claims that these abuses lead to patterns of behavior later in life such as gangs and inherited behavior toward children. He mentions the trip to the US being controlled by Mexican cartels where girls are raped along the way.


No, he doesn't say that most Mexicans abuse their children. He says that "on average" (all the miserable statistics) Mexicans are terrible to their children.


and are basically retarded?
No, he says the average IQ in Mexico is in the high 80's. That is a documented statistic, not his opinion.


He reminds me of an #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& I worked with once. He told us about how he was a Promisekeeper and only ate healthy food.
I was kind of impressed till I happened to stop at a convenience store where he was at the register with a couple of porn mags and a handful of candy bars.
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Molyneux has not been found, to my knowledge, to be a hypocrite. He is a high IQ type that tends to annoy some people. But I haven't found any credible refutation of things that I heard him say.

And he said a lot of things in the video. He also summarized the Lowry article that Scottw posted and no one responded to. His point being that the left is hyping up false rage in order to make Trump look evil or something.

I was hoping you might discuss that. But my hope was tenuous. I mostly figured you would do what you did. As with the Lowry article, in general, crickets were provoked. But you did manage to employ the time tested cheap trick of trying to kill the messenger with false accusations rather than discussing the message.

Well done.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:48 AM   #2
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The spike in separations is largely an attempt to gain leverage over democrats...

As for Obama, he was aggressively prioritizing criminals...nothing wrong with that.
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I did not hear many people screaming when Obama did it.

If I did something that had me go to jail, I would be separated from my children, even when they were young.

These people came in through back door, not front door. Hardly fair to those that waited in line and went through legal means.

This is a great political wedge issue - only ones that benefit are the politicians and talking heads.

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Old 06-18-2018, 07:56 AM   #3
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I did not hear many people screaming when Obama did it.

If I did something that had me go to jail, I would be separated from my children, even when they were young.

These people came in through back door, not front door. Hardly fair to those that waited in line and went through legal means.

This is a great political wedge issue - only ones that benefit are the politicians and talking heads.
"I did not hear many people screaming when Obama did it."

You bet you didn't.

"If I did something that had me go to jail, I would be separated from my children, even when they were young"

Obviously. Happens every single day.

"These people came in through back door, not front door. Hardly fair to those that waited in line and went through legal means."

I have a friend who was here legally on a student visa, he wanted to stay, but got sent back to Albania when his visa ran out, took him almost 3 years to come back. What on Gods name do you say to him (he had to wait 3 years in a godforsaken sh*thole), when we advocate letting others jump the line? What message does that send?

"This is a great political wedge issue "

That remains to be seen. The left keeps swinging, Trump keeps dodging.
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:37 AM   #4
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I did not hear many people screaming when Obama did it.
Obama didn't do it, neither did Bush.
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